Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the "Why?" pages]

Hi all,

sorry for my late input, but University was more important at the moment. 

Am 04.02.2011 um 11:32 schrieb Narayan Aras:

> Hi Nik
>
> 1. The website project has no graphic designer on board-why?

Sorry, what am I? I'm on the Design Team and I'm a Designer. Sooo "no" is a lie.

> 2. There is no planned wireframe/icons for home page, and other sets of pages- why?

Because we will start this work

> 2. We raced against launch date, missed it and still no graphic inputs-why?

They had to do something with the ressources they had. After they did their work, some new people 
(like me) joined and can give them new ressources and knowledge.
If they didn't done this, LO would be without a Website to this day. (This is the Worst Case 
Senario for an OSC)

> Don't you think someone from your team had to contribute?
>
> If a design team member was there to hold our hand, I'd never need "outside" talent in the first 
> place.
> (Assuming that there is such a thing as "outside talent" in an open source project.)
> So if I fulfill that gap with a guest artist, why should the design team object?

If we reached the "Design-Phase" we would have asked the Design-Team to join in and help us to 
realise designs on the wireframes and the other stuff.

> I never made any talent-comparisons, except to reject the idea of "approving" someone.
>
> > Leaving us with a Design style that we would have no choice but to 
> > integrate, without having any input.
>
> How did you get this idea?
> I have stated that design inputs are essential. 
> That includes all design standards, including color-palette, dimensions, etc.
> No web designer would think of working outside the existing standards and style.
> Please point to repository of icons, standards, etc; so that they can be adhered to.
>
> > Did you learn that lesson; how important that feeling of inclusion is? 
>
> Well, I am complaining about LACK of Graphic Designer and you are complaining about NON-INCLUSION 
> in the website team.
> How is that possible when both sides are so bent on working jointly? 
> This is comic-tragic. Obviously this is a coordination issue/leadership failure.



> Please do not search for any motives- We are terribly short of web designer(s).
> The time is running out- The website is far from ready.

The Website IS ready. But the little baby needs only some help to grow and improve itself. Even 
without a "designer" this website is not like: 
http://www.ideactionmedia.com/IdeactionMedia.html
http://www.dokimos.org/ajff/ (My personal Favorite)
http://www.arngren.net/
http://www.partytentcity.com/

> And I happened to have access to an excellent source. There is nothing more to it.
>
> Regards,
> -Narayan
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