Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

On 1/18/11 12:26 PM, Narayan Aras wrote:

> Then I volunteered to collect the stakeholders requirements.
> The 23 roles were identified on this very mail list.

I have seen mentions of these "23 roles" many times, but I have not seen 
a list where they are described in detail. It looks like they have been 
developed without even asking the SC members - or the group of the 
founders - if this was the right approach.

I am not a web site expert, but I am a member of the SC and in addition 
I am the one coordinating marketing (you might complain about this, but 
I got the trust of the founders based on seven years of activity inside 
the OOo community). In order to approve an approach, you have to "sell" 
it before even starting to work at it.

When I have entered the OOo community I told the members about my 
experience (at the time, 23 years in IT marketing, as an executive VP of 
a very large corporation and then as a consultant, plus 12 years as a 
professor in Italy and the US - summer courses - where I have also 
obtained three master degrees - all summa cum laude - in communications 
(marketing and media relations) and journalism, which in general can be 
considered as adequate credentials for an OOo marketing contact), but I 
was asked to start working at translating some documents (which I did 
translate as it was a very easy task).

When Davide Dozza, the Italian OOo maintainer, saw the quality of the 
translations, then I was allowed to start working in "real" marketing. I 
had to "sell" myself, although I had very good credentials.

I do not mind about my background (other long time members of the OOo 
community can confirm they have never heard about it until today) as I 
do like to be respected for what I do and not for what I have studied. 
Communities have their non written rules, and there is some learning 
curve (as in any other activity).

I am very interested in understanding:

1. Why you decided to create "roles" (it might be a silly question, but 
when you deal with people different from you I have learned that there 
are not silly questions)

2. How you decided to define these "roles"

3. How you got to the number of "23 roles" (my perception is that 23 
might be way too many, but I might be wrong)

4. Which benefits bring these 23 roles to the web site, and to the 
community in general (being the web site an expression of the community 
and not an independent entity)

I think that once these five questions (maybe silly ones, as I said) get 
an answer and are fully understood by the community (the founders and 
the SC are supposed to be the first community representatives even if 
sometimes their behaviour might look different, but everyone should 
remember that we are all individuals with our own pros and cons, and our 
specific way of expressing ourselves, independently from our role) then 
we might have a better understanding of the beauties and the advantages 
of a different (and improved) web site).

I think that the main fault of everyone in this specific domain of the 
web site (including SC members) was to overlook the web site problem and 
leave it unmanaged.

I look forward to get the answer to my questions. Ciao, Italo

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