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Hi Florian,

FCKEditor is already disabled since Wednesday last week as per Stefan Weigel's request.

Concerning your argument for the WYSIWYG editor:

I have ask for people to speak up if they need the editor. So far I have not received a single person speaking up for itself in favour of the editor.

The statistics I have provided you with speak the same language - only one user of more than 200 using it.

Just because /we believe/ or /fear/ that we need one is a bad argument for it.


Am 08.11.2010 09:41, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
Hi Andrea,

Andrea Pescetti wrote on 2010-11-06 23.33:
In general I'm against WYSIWYG editors in MediaWiki also because they
often mangle code enough to make the "diff" function useless. But if you
know for sure that there are people who won't live without a WYSIWYG
editor, then I can't oppose it too much. I would, however, make it
disabled by default but then (since only knowledgeable people will know
where to find the option otherwise!) add a prominent "To enable
easy[/rich?] editing capabilities, click here" notice just above the
editing textarea.

I can't prove, but I'm quite sure that we would lose a lot of possible
contributors to the wiki if we disabled the WYSIWYG editor at all. I'm
not limited to FCKeditor, I'm open for any solution, but WYSIWYG is
mandatory, I fear.

I however agree, that disabling it per default is a good idea, and
showing a link on the editing page for people to enable the editor is a
good idea.

IMHO, this only requires one option in LocalSettings.php,
riched_start_disable =1 or something like that. Manuel, could you maybe
have a look?


Manuel Schneider

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