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So i spent about 45 minutes on the demo site...  Anything about the site can
basically be configured through the GUI on the admin side and groups can run
autonomously.  If I added and configured the notifications module you can
send anything from an email to text message to group members.  I usually
spend months on a site to configure it perfectly for a client and develop a
custom theme.  This site could have lots of improvements, but I think
getting all the functions listed below added and working in 45 minutes
illustrates that Drupal is quick and flexible.  You could literally just
drop on a theme, do some configuration of the UI with a couple tricks, and
this project would have a wiki + cms + blog + group management /
organization system seamlessly integrated together.

THe site has a place to post pages that could be turned into a wiki with an
add on module called wikilinks.

The site has groups, polls per group, ratings on discussions that are
tracked, and differentiated admin / user roles.

try to login using:


P.S.  The guy that complained that my argument in the past about Drupal is
like Microsoft is silly.  Micorsoft sucks because they are closed source and
lost their minds when they released vista and office 2007.   They do not
suck because they ARE usually easy to use and have a big community of
support.  When your running a real company or business that depends on some
software, but isn't MAKING that software, you need the software to work and
will depend on the community  that makes it to support it.  I think a big
energetic passionate community is an asset.

2010/10/18 Keith Williams <>

My opinion...

Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is Christian.  I
think there are 3-4 people here that like Drupal in this group.

The couple people interested in Drupal are working on a demo on my server.
I wish I had time to put in this week to this, but I literally am doing 120%
work on some projects, so I have no time to do a demo so that I can convince
one person that Drupal is a good system for a project like this.

After reviewing silverstripe, it seems that it is primarily designed to be
a content management system or a blog for a few people or a company.  It may
be a perfectly acceptable solution for sites like this; however, a large
website for a distributed community of individuals collaborating on a
project is not a simple cms website.  Are there silverstripe sites with
large million+ hit per day sites that have hundreds of thousands of
registered users working in different areas of the site and with different
levels of access.  So yes, Drupal does take some time to setup.  Looking at
the default install of drupal without a guided tour is like installing linux
and wondering why it isn't making you coffee and writing your papers for


You're looking at it from a users point of view???? Thats not  reasonable,
you can make Drupal and I'm sure silverstripe look like anything.  THE REAL
ISSUE is going to be designing, configuring, coding, and maintaining the
site.   Unless Silverstripe has a graphical query builder with access to
user profiles, content, files, a form builder data, fine grained user roles,
and a million tutorials on how to use it like Drupal does, then I think
silverstripe is not a good choice.  The main advantage Drupal has is that a
"User" can be a designer and the "User" does not need to be a coder to help
with the website setup.

If you don't have the time to talk on skype / or something else about this
then you're really not interested in finding a good solution for this, your
only interested in promoting silverstripe for some reason.

2010/10/18 Drew Jensen <>

Hi again,

Can you guys help me out here -

We are down to two viable choices:

We have individuals willing to install/tweak either package.

More folks for Drupal then Silverstripe perhaps, but Cloph is going to
be around, so just that alone probably isn't a good determining factor.

-sorry if I missed this in earlier email, cause I have not read every

We do want to see these two demos - yes?
(I will cc the Steering Committee on this email)

How close to an email with two URLs so folks can click and look?

Since we can't build both, how will we decide?

I did read most emails and think you will agree that it's pretty much
down to that, so let's just finish up.

-just my observations.



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