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Hi Cedric,

just checked the recent daily build ... some issues I've noticed when
playing around:
      * the indicator line is wider than the page (on the right side,
        for LTR) ... that looks a bit strange when zooming or working in
        book layout. Could you set the size according the page width?
      * When I called the function the first time, it took about 10
        seconds until the action (page break) was visible. I don't know
        whether this was caused by a weird installation (got some
        errors, Java is missing).
      * When the element was shown the very first time, then the right
        side of the line was "half-drawn" (only the continuous stroke,
        some dashed part was missing)
      * When I added a header, the cursor (among with the page) jumped
        upwards. The area left and right to the pages weren't re-drawn,
        so parts of the page break indicators were visible. Clicking on
        them made them disappear.
      * The menu items don't do anything yet (I'm sure you know *G*)

One last thing ... I don't know whether the button itself is a bit large
(good for the button handling, but visually it might be a bit strong ...
thinking about going towards a 16x16 icon).
@ Astron: What do you think?

Again, thanks for the nice improvements ... :-)

Cheers,
Christoph

Am Samstag, den 24.09.2011, 13:09 +0200 schrieb Christoph Noack:
Hi Regina, Cedric, Cor, Olivier ... or simply: the hiding/showing page
breaks in writer special interest group ;-)

I'm back from the "Bug Submission Assistant" ... and more than happy
about the recent progress in Writer :-)))

Am Freitag, den 23.09.2011, 23:32 +0200 schrieb Cor Nouws:
Hi Cedric,

Cedric Bosdonnat wrote (23-09-11 21:11)
Here is a screenshot of what I currently have implemented for the page
break indicator. Any opinion on that?

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4223/pagebreaks.png

Cool, that's surely great! Can't wait to try it out...

I like the color red, but in this case, I still find it to different 
compared to the rest of the 'color scheme' (Options > Appearance > Text 
Document).
I would vote for the 'Manual page break blue' from Calc.

Consistency is important, yes. Wasn't the color "red" introduced,
because the dark blue was hardly visible when using the old document
borders? Now, the blue color would work well again - so indeed it makes
sense to go back (another reason: red is considered to be a color for
warnings, blue for information).

Another small refinement - I think the current button interferes a bit
(only a bit) with the shadow. From my point-of-view, could you move it a
few pixels to the left?

The (red) arrow/button: are there some basic principles that are 
followed in designing this?
There will definitely be more elements in the future - quite some 
changes in Impress also recently - so consistency would be useful.

True, I think this is where "we" (the Design Team) need to write down an
Interaction Pattern, so that it can be re-used easily (and
consistently). The current drop-down resembles (or: should resemble) the
behavior of the Notes options menu or the new header/footer page breaks.
Still, many stuff is open like mouse-overs, "is active"
visualization", ...

Nevertheless, the current "button" might be something people don't want
to see all the time ... if you remember my proposal [1] of having "fade
in / out" functionality for the headers/footers, this can solve a bunch
of problems here, too. For example, for column breaks the button may
also just appear if the user hovers the red line (e.g. if not knowing
what this is about). Same for the "side by side" view mode.

The "book mode" has also been addressed in this thread; I propose to
only draw the line above the page that gets "page breaked", so something
like that (page break on left page, affects next page):

        
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br
        +-----------------------------+-------------------------------+
        |                             |                               |
        |                             |                               |
        |                             |                               |


One additional thing I'd like to know - Cedric, if we are sure that the
basic stuff is finished, could we ping / involve the documentation team,
so that the help texts are adapted accordingly? Just ping me if you
think its done, then I have a (UX) look at it again, and then we can
forward the discussion to the doc team - agreed?

The entry 'Edit Page Break' opens - I expect - the window Paragraph, tab 
Text flow?

Cor: Do you miss another feature here? Like changing the type of the
page break, or changing the following page style? Note: I'd like to
avoid stuffing the menus, but if there is something that _really_ helps,
why not?

Thanks a lot for all the improvements,

Cedric, thanks a lot for making Writer a "cool thing" ;-)

Cheers,
Christoph

[1]
http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg00009.html

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