Re: [libreoffice-users] weirdness in save dialogue box

On 22/07/2023 11:02, Mike Scott wrote:
> On 20/07/2023 00:14, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> > Does this still happen if you update to LO7.4?
> > If I open yyy.odt, and  click 'Save As' the field "Name" for file name is always blank.
> >
> > On 19/07/2023 05:38, Philip Jackson wrote:
> > > Hi :
> > >
> > > I'm using 7.3.7.2 on UbuntuStudio and I'm always using 'save as' but I've never had the problem you 
> > > describe. Sorry.
> > >
> > > Philip
> > >
> > > On 18/07/2023 16:13, Mike Scott wrote:
> > > > Hi all; a very weird issue has been found by my wife, which I can repeat on a separate machine. 
> > > > Both use LO 7.3.7.2 on Mint 21.
> > > >
> > > > What happens is this. Take an odt file, open it in Writer then go to 'Save As'. The expected 
> > > > behaviour is that the filename in the dialogue box will be filled in and selected/highlighted and 
> > > > there'll be no file type appended. Eg, I open yyy.odt, and 'Save As' displays just 'yyy' 
> > > > (highlighted).
> > > >
> > > > However, sometimes and for no apparent reason, the dialogue box instead displays filename and file 
> > > > type ('yyy.odt'), with the type (only) highlighted. This causes issues when trying to save as a 
> > > > different type (eg as .docx)
>
> (TLDR: open question at end! The details of my testing results are too long; sorry.)
>
>
> Thanks all for comments, including one off-list. Ap[ologies for not getting back sooner - family 
> matters intervened.
>
> To clarify, my made-up name yyy.odt was (previously) by way of indicating what happens, not that 
> that was the literal file causing problems. Apologies for any mis-direction.
>
> I'm still none the wiser as to what's happening. I've just checked again the environment for the 
> files. I have a file in a directory /dhome/mike, and an identical copy (^C ^V in a file manager) in 
> /dhome/mike/temp of a file called
> Saturday  song sheet.odt
> (yes - there are two spaces together there, but that's not the issue)
>
> I close LO. Double-click on the one in the temp directory, head for File|Save As. The filename is 
> filled in
> Saturday  song sheet
> and selected. No file type.
>
> So, I close LO. Double-click on the one in the higher directory; again File|Save As. This time, the 
> file name and type appear;
> Saturday  song sheet.odt
> the /type/ alone is selected.
>
> I cannot for the life of me understand why the behaviour in the two cases should be different.
>
> To add to my confusion, I've just tried the following sequence of operations, starting with the 
> "failing" file in /dhome/mike:
>
> make a copy and change name:
> cp Saturday\ \ song\ sheet.odt yyy.odt
> open yyy.odt and see that Save As prefills the file name box as "yyy.odt" with the odt selected.
>
> Rename and do the same again:
> mv yyy.odt yy.odt
> Same issue - Save As shows the name and type.
>
> Finally, do it again:
> mv yy.odt y.odt
> But now y.odt opens the same, but Save As simply shows a highlighted "y" in the file name box.
>
> Oh, and if I rename y.odt back to yy.odt, the problem comes back. And, if I copy yy.odt (fails) to 
> my temp directory, all is well with the copy.
>
> The thing is, when trying to save as .doc having the file type pre-set in the box causes a problem 
> - LO will try to save a .doc (or whatever) as the type shown, and it needs manually changing. 
> That's hazardous for someone like my wife, and can potentially lose the original .odt file.
>
> I've just tried a similar sequence with the same file in my "real" home directory (/home/mike) with 
> identical results.
>
>
> **?
> Does LO perhaps treat "top-level" directories in some way specially? My current guess is that multi-character 
> file names in a "top-level" directory are treated differently from others. That would be very odd though, so 
> IMBW!
>
>
> Thanks for reading. I find this sort of problem hard to describe concisely. Am I missing something 
> obvious?
Hi Mike,
I've tried to replicate your series of moves listed in your latest email. I even started with a 
file of the same name, Saturday  song list.odt, and used mv and cp as close as I could following 
your sequence. In every case, when I came to 'save as' in LO Writer 7.3.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 
2022LTS, only the file name without extension was shown in the 'file name' box. I tried saving into 
the ~/ directory and into other lower levels.

I have been unable to replicate your case where the file name and its extension are given in the 
'save as' | 'file name box'.

I'm commonly working on Writer docs three and four levels down from the home directory and 'save 
as' is one of my most common ways of duplicating a file to provide a starter in a new directory. 
I've never seen the behavior you describe.

This doesn't help you, I'm afraid. Could it be something connected with your OS version? I can't 
exactly recall if my LO is the UbuntuStudio distribution version or whether I downloaded it from 
the LO website - I've done both over the years. When I look where it is installed ( 
usr/bin/libreoffice) I would expect I'm using the version supplied by UbuntuStudio.

Philip

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