AW: [libreoffice-users] Position references

Hi Harald and @List

There is a post about pictures here:
En: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/Insert_and_edit_images_in_Writer_Part_1
De: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/Insert_and_edit_images_in_Writer_Part_1/de

I would delve into anchor types and positioning in one post. But this is also mentioned in the post.

Best regards
Susanne

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Von: Harald Berger <hrbrgr@t-online.de> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2022 12:57
An: users@global.libreoffice.org
Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-users] Position references

Hi Susanne and Regina,

in this post there is already a sketch by Mike Kaganski (is not so old yet):
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/writer-relationship-between-page-margins-and-other-typographic-elements/47015/4?u=hrbrgr

Would that be usable?

Freundliche Grüße
Harald

Am 25.10.2022 um 11:45 schrieb susanne.mohn-lo@kiel-pries.de:
> Hallo Harald,
>
> yes- A document template would be nice.
>   
> I will need a time. At the moment I am still on vacation and read the list on the side.
> Thanks in advance for your support!
>
> Kind regards
> Susanne
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: LO.Harald.Berger@t-online.de <LO.Harald.Berger@t-online.de>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2022 09:54
> An: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-users] Position references
>
> Hello Susanne and Regina,
>
> if you like I can put it in the wiki (incl. rework).
>
> Susanne I would then send you a document template for the wiki text that I always use.
>
> I have not read the topic very intensively now, but it is very interesting in any case.
>
> Kind regards
> Harald
>
> Am 25.10.2022 um 08:10 schrieb Susanne LO:
> > Hallo Regina,
> >
> > Did you sent John such a document?
> > I will create a document for our german users with examples for the lot of positions. And 
> > explain it.
> > Where can i publish ist for the community?
> >
> > And: in LO 7.4.1 the is no reference to page in the context menu, only wehen i use properties.
> >
> > Greetings
> > Susanne
> >
> > —————————————————
> > Susanne Mohn
> >
> > > Am 15.10.2022 um 21:57 schrieb Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-online.de>:
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > John Kaufmann schrieb am 15.10.2022 um 19:45:
> > >
> > > > Anchoring an entity (frame, box, image, ...) is done with respect 
> > > > to position references:
> > > > *Horizontal*:
> > > >       Paragraph area
> > > >       Paragraph text area
> > > >       Left paragraph border
> > > >       Right paragraph border
> > > >       Left page border
> > > >       Right page border
> > > >       Entire page
> > > >       Page text area
> > > Please use a current daily build. The wording has changed.
> > >
> > > "Entire page" = "Left of page text area" + "Page text area" + "Right 
> > > of page text area".
> > >
> > > "Entire paragraph area" = "Left of paragraph text area" + "Paragraph 
> > > text area" + "Right of paragraph text area".
> > >
> > > The "Left of page text area" is the sum of "Gutter" (if left) + 
> > > "left page margin" + "page border left" + "page padding left" as set 
> > > in the page properties dialog.
> > >
> > > The "Left of paragraph text area" is the sum of "Indent before" + 
> > > "paragraph border" + "paragraph padding" as set in the paragraph 
> > > properties dialog.
> > >
> > > Notice, that the column distance is not included in the "Entire 
> > > paragraph area".
> > >
> > > Left, Center and Right use areas as reference.
> > > "From left" takes the left edge of the area as reference line.
> > >
> > > You should insert a small image and test the various positions.
> > >
> > > In general the preview illustration describes it correctly. But some 
> > > bugs exist.
> > >
> > > When using anchor "to character" you get some additional references.
> > > Anchor "as character" has its own set of references. For testing 
> > > these anchors use a large font size, a line with different font 
> > > sizes, a large line spacing and a small image.
> > >
> > > I'll sent you a document with some lines to indicate the horizontal 
> > > areas. In addition I will sent you an older document which I have 
> > > created for the ODF TC. Describing the reference areas is still a 
> > > not solved task in the ODF TC. A problem in all that descriptions is 
> > > that common using of terms like "margin" and "border" does not 
> > > correspond to the technical attributes "fo:margin" and "fo:border".
> > >
> > > It would be really good to get a document with all that reference 
> > > areas and lines explained. I do not mean a technical one with ODF 
> > > attributes but a document for users about the kind of positioning 
> > > possible in LibreOffice.
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > > Regina
> > >
> > >
> > >
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