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Hallo Harald,

yes- A document template would be nice. 
 
I will need a time. At the moment I am still on vacation and read the list on the side. 
Thanks in advance for your support!

Kind regards
Susanne

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Von: LO.Harald.Berger@t-online.de <LO.Harald.Berger@t-online.de> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2022 09:54
An: users@global.libreoffice.org
Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-users] Position references

Hello Susanne and Regina,

if you like I can put it in the wiki (incl. rework).

Susanne I would then send you a document template for the wiki text that I always use.

I have not read the topic very intensively now, but it is very interesting in any case.

Kind regards
Harald

Am 25.10.2022 um 08:10 schrieb Susanne LO:
Hallo Regina,

Did you sent John such a document?
I will create a document for our german users with examples for the lot of positions. And explain 
it.
Where can i publish ist for the community?

And: in LO 7.4.1 the is no reference to page in the context menu, only wehen i use properties.

Greetings
Susanne

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Susanne Mohn

Am 15.10.2022 um 21:57 schrieb Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-online.de>:

Hi John,

John Kaufmann schrieb am 15.10.2022 um 19:45:

Anchoring an entity (frame, box, image, ...) is done with respect to 
position references:
*Horizontal*:
     Paragraph area
     Paragraph text area
     Left paragraph border
     Right paragraph border
     Left page border
     Right page border
     Entire page
     Page text area
Please use a current daily build. The wording has changed.

"Entire page" = "Left of page text area" + "Page text area" + "Right 
of page text area".

"Entire paragraph area" = "Left of paragraph text area" + "Paragraph 
text area" + "Right of paragraph text area".

The "Left of page text area" is the sum of "Gutter" (if left) + "left 
page margin" + "page border left" + "page padding left" as set in the 
page properties dialog.

The "Left of paragraph text area" is the sum of "Indent before" + 
"paragraph border" + "paragraph padding" as set in the paragraph 
properties dialog.

Notice, that the column distance is not included in the "Entire 
paragraph area".

Left, Center and Right use areas as reference.
"From left" takes the left edge of the area as reference line.

You should insert a small image and test the various positions.

In general the preview illustration describes it correctly. But some 
bugs exist.

When using anchor "to character" you get some additional references.
Anchor "as character" has its own set of references. For testing 
these anchors use a large font size, a line with different font 
sizes, a large line spacing and a small image.

I'll sent you a document with some lines to indicate the horizontal 
areas. In addition I will sent you an older document which I have 
created for the ODF TC. Describing the reference areas is still a not 
solved task in the ODF TC. A problem in all that descriptions is that 
common using of terms like "margin" and "border" does not correspond 
to the technical attributes "fo:margin" and "fo:border".

It would be really good to get a document with all that reference 
areas and lines explained. I do not mean a technical one with ODF 
attributes but a document for users about the kind of positioning 
possible in LibreOffice.

Kind regards
Regina



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