Re: [libreoffice-users] Using the Gallery - removing the descriptive text

Dear John,

first of all, thank you very much for your feedback.
This has led me to probe a little deeper into the theme.

Well I am not a developer but also just a user like you.
Therefore, as a user, you can only ever tell about experiences.

It is also possible that I did not understand your question correctly. 
Sorry, English is not my native language.

But now to the point. I'm glad you are familiar with frames, because 
they are a powerful tool in Writer.

There is also what I hope is a pleasing development for you.
You can use and change the flowchart graphics.
However, this only works in Draw.

I think it is a mistake that this does not work in Writer.
In this respect it would be appropriate to write a bug report.

Now for the differences, which I found out thanks to your feedback.

-- Flow charts in Writer. --

When you insert a flowchart object into Writer, you can't actually 
change it (as I said, probably a bug).
In this example I used the graphic object "Process".
Right-click the object and select Properties from the context menu.
The dialog shows you that it is an image and this is therefore not editable.

-- Flow charts in Draw. --

In Draw, add again the flow chart object "Process".
If you now double-click on the text, the cursor will appear for editing. 
(Heureka)

Try right-clicking on the object.
With "Break" you can learn that it is a composite object. Use the 
navigator to see the individual sub-objects.

-- Workaround - my proposal --

Create flowchart objects for your purposes in Draw and copy them to Writer.

I wish you much success.

Kind regards,
Harald


Am 25.04.2022 um 01:28 schrieb John Kaufmann:
> Thanks, Harald. That article is about using frames (including linked 
> frames) to layout a DTP project; it does not address the Gallery, or 
> even the inclusion of graphics generally.  FWIW, I'm familiar with 
> frames (and even use them in this document), but don't see how they 
> relate to the question of included graphics, from the Gallery or 
> elsewhere.
>
> Most of the Gallery contents seem to be traditional clip-art 
> (graphical symbols), including those collected in the "Flow chart" 
> category. How do those flowchart symbols differ from others? [The 
> Gallery has three other categories - "BPMN", "Diagrams", "Shapes" - 
> that also contain descriptive text with graphics; my original question 
> would also apply in those cases.]  Is your point that I should forget 
> the Gallery and make my own graphics (from Draw or elsewhere)? (If so, 
> what is the purpose of the Gallery?)
>
> Kind regards,
> John
>
>
> On 2022-04-24 09:30, LO.Harald.Berger@t-online.de wrote:
> > IMHO, the flowchart symbols are not suitable for your purposes.
> > For graphical symbols that should contain text, text boxes, drawing 
> > symbols or frames are suitable.
> > Please have a look if this article helps you:
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/Layout_in_Writer
> >
> > Harald
> >
> > Am 24.04.2022 um 14:52 schrieb John Kaufmann:
> > > In years of using OO/LO (now @ 7.1.4.2), I have never been 
> > > interested in the Gallery of multimedia objects. Now I have an 
> > > application for it, and can't see how to execute a simple inclusion 
> > > of a graphic without its attached descriptive text.
> > >
> > > Specifically: in Writer I have a 4-page booklet/pamphlet in which 
> > > the two facing inner pages have related content: The left side (page 
> > > 2) has a list of summarized thoughts (each a few lines), two of 
> > > which are expanded on the right side (page 3). To help the reader 
> > > make the connection, it seems helpful in both cases to point from 
> > > the condensed version to its expansion.  The Gallery has a set of 
> > > "Flow chart" graphics, including braces and brackets designed to 
> > > serve the function of grouping a few lines and pointing to a 
> > > conclusion. Unfortunately, all come with the description "Callout" 
> > > which is inserted along with the graphic -- kind of like clip-art 
> > > that includes a message "This is clip-art" (as part of the clip-art 
> > > display). This can't be right, can it? - yet I have searched in vain 
> > > (including the Help and Guides) for how to turn off that descriptive 
> > > text. What am I missing?
> > >
> > > John


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