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Hi Regina,

On 2022-04-25 04:25, Regina Henschel wrote:
John Kaufmann schrieb am 24.04.2022 um 14:52:
In years of using OO/LO (now @, I have never been interested in the Gallery of multimedia 
objects. Now I have an application for it, and can't see how to execute a simple inclusion of a 
graphic without its attached descriptive text.

Do you mean the text, which is included in shapes of theme "Flow chart"? Insert the object and mark 
it. Then press key F2 to enter edit mode. Now you can delete the text with backspace key.

That's it!

Some of the objects in the "Flow chart" gallery theme are groups. In that case you first need to 
enter the group (see item in context menu) and then you can select the object, which actually has the text.

I assumed it was a group, but did not find the key to un-group it. (I was looking for options like "Ungroup" or 
"Edit" or "Properties".) I should remember F2, but seldom use it; now I will do so more often. Still, it 
would probably be nice if the context menu included that. I should check to see if someone has filed 
such request.

As I said to Dave, in the context of the wealth of tools LO offers: every day is a school day, and I 
like that.  But this episode has raised a sometimes-recurring question about how those tools are 
coordinated. Dave suggested to forget the Gallery (at least for this purpose) and use Insert>Shape 
to the same end. That worked fine, but left me wondering about use of the Gallery.  You pointed out 
that the Gallery is fine for this purpose (in fact, I prefer the equivalent graphic, which is 
different from the brace in the Shapes library), for an even better result.

I'm sure there's a lot of history behind why those two approaches coexist, apparently 
independently. Are they in fact independent? Is this a case where one would prune/rationalize the 
tools to a common base (maybe with multiple entry points in the user interface) if time allowed, or 
is there a positive benefit from maintaining both the Shapes menu and the Gallery as separate 
graphics libraries? If the latter, how do you decide where to add a new graphic or collection of 

Thanks so much for your insight.

Kind regards,

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