Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice help menu

Hi :)
It sounds like the 'in-built' help package has not been installed.

When installing LibreOffice from the upstream website (ie the LibreOffice
website, as you would install stuff if you were using Windows) there are
usually 3 packages to install;
1.  The main installer for the LibreOffice program/suite itself
2.  The 'in-built' help file/package
3.  Your language, unless En-US is your language in which case this package
would be bundled in with the main installer.

So for the LibreOffice version from your repos you may need to use a
package-manager to search for "LibreOffice help" of "LibreOffice help
files" or something like that.  When i have installed LibreOffice in Ubuntu
in the past (when else right??) i'm sure the help-files were all selected
by default, automatically.  This behaviour may well have been changed
either temporarily or deliberately for many different reasons.

Personally i seem to remember the 'in-built' help seems to cause problems
for native-English-speakers whereas the "Published Guides" are excellent;
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

The translations of the 'inbuilt' help into almost all other languages
other than English seem to be fantastic.  For the English version the team
that does the 'in-built' help has always been incredibly tiny and more
'geeky' than 'normal', and as a separate team from the one that works on
the published guides their process of review-proofreading etc has been
somewhat different too.  Recently quite a lot of work has been done on the
'in-built' help to make it more 'normal' for us to understand more easily.
However this work too is being done by non-native English speakers as it
requires unusual technical skills that The Documentation Team doesn't find
easy to learn.  Hopefully the in-built help will remain just as good to
translate from because it's always been particularly brilliant for that.

Good luck and many regards from
Tom :)





On 20 January 2017 at 18:24, Dave Howorth <dave@howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:27:20 +0100
> Philip Jackson <philip.jackson@nordnet.fr> wrote:
>
> > On 18/01/17 13:16, Dave Howorth wrote:
> > > I run LibreOffice Version: 5.2.3.3 Build ID: 20m0(Build:3) on
> > > openSUSE Leap 42.1
> > >
> > > I just clicked on LibreOffice Help in the Help menu and discovered
> > > that it opened a web page instead of a help window. The web page is
> > > https://help.libreoffice.org/index.php?title=5.2/Common/
> Help&Language=en-US&System=UNIX&Version=5.2#bm_id3149178
> > > and I can't figure out how to use it to get help! It seems to be
> > > some kind of overview/index but there doesn't seem to be any way to
> > > actually invoke help. How do I use it?
> > Hi - I recognise your problem, Dave.  I had exactly this on Ubuntu1404
> > LTS using the distro supplied version of LO.
>
> Hi Philip,
>
> Many thanks for your reply. It seems that both openSUSE and Ubuntu
> dropped the ball when packaging this version, which perhaps points to
> some communication omission on LO's part. I've submitted an openSUSE
> bug for it but haven't had any feedback yet.
>
> > I've just refreshed my memory of how I dealt with it.  On the page
> > your link gets to, in the left hand column, second entry down is
> > "Main Page".
> >
> > This takes you to :  https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page
> > and here you find more interesting links to each of the components in
> > LO suite.
>
> Thanks for those instructions; they'll definitely help until the distro
> is fixed. It's a pity the menu entry in the application doesn't link
> directly to the online help for that application. Then it might be
> almost usable!
>
> Cheers, Dave
>
> > hth
> > Philip
>
>
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