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Hi :)
I think that just installing Firefox or some other web-browser (people
seem to like Chrome these days) and LibreOffice deals with most of the

I'm not saying the Internet Explorer and MS Office are all bad all the
time.  I use both quite often myself.

I try to avoid them but they sometimes have their moments.  Also
people seem to get in quite a mess using them so i have to know enough
to be able to handle routine issues.

One problem with Windows 8 or 8.1 is that the interface and ways of
doing things have changed radically from Xp/Win7 or [shudders] Vista
and all that went before them.  However i get the impression that it's
the new way Windows is going to be in the future so it could be worth
spending time getting comfortable with it.  As with all big change
like that it is very annoying to have been forced into but if you want
to stay with Windows then there is no choice.

Of course moving to Ubuntu or any of the others (even Android or
Chrome or iThings) would also be a huge change and take a lot of
getting used to.

The difference is that with most of them (ok not with iThings, Chrome
or Android) but definitely with Ubuntu, Mint and almost all others you
are always given choices.  Such as being able to keep the way things
"look and feel" much the same even when they try to push more big
changes any time in the future.  They give a default but you can
usually choose something else if you prefer.

Windows seldom gives much choice and has a tendency to suddenly push
quite big changes in the way things appear to work.

Regards from
Tom :)

On 29 January 2015 at 10:02, Philip Jordan <> wrote:
Thanks Tom

Can I say I think you have the picture!
Meanwhile, I'll continue to look @ Ubantu
etc as helpfully set out by Gordon

I'll also maybe look at taking my Laptop back
to Staples, where I got it a month ago

Thanks again
Philip Jordan

On 29 January 2015 at 09:46, Tom Davies <> wrote:

Hi :)
Yeh, the 40mins does kinda assume that downloads all work correctly
and that you have some experience of doing it so that you don't have
to stop and read everything and maybe even do a bit of research to
check the accuracy or background of the various things that crop up.

We could help you try out Ubuntu another day maybe, if you are up for it.

Right now it's probably better to just focus on the one issue.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 28 January 2015 at 18:09, Philip Jordan <> wrote:
Thanks Gordon & Tom

I'm afraid that the 40 minutes suggested is rather more than a tad
optmistic e.g.

Items 1-5 inc will each take me some considerable time i.e.

they all involve me far beyond my comfort zone!

But thanks for trying to help


Philip Jordan

On 28 January 2015 at 17:33, Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 28/01/15 17:06, Philip Jordan wrote:

 & how long to do what where when etc please ref Ubuntu.....?

here's the definitive guide:
There's a lot of information on that page.
In Brief:

   1. Ensure you have a Windows Recovery media and have backed up all
   data. (Not that I've ever had anything go wrong, but you never
   2. Download the Ubuntu iso and create a bootable USB stick (or
   - the USB stick is more convenient and flexible IMHO).
   3. Boot up from the USB stick and you can try Ubuntu without making
   any changes to your computer, to see if you like it!
    4. If you do, create free disk space on your C drive using Windows
   Disk management.
   5. The only slightly complicated thing to do is to create the
   partitions - do NOT let the Ubuntu installer do that automatically.

Hope that helps.
the total time to install (depending on your internet connection)
be <40 mins....including LibreOfice.

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