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Tanstaafl wrote
On 10/1/2014 8:21 AM, Werner <


> wrote:

On 10/1/2014 14:04, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi Werner,

This regression has already been discussed here, with essentially the
same result (fix it yourself, pay someone else to fix it, or shut up
about it)...
That is not Sophie's view of it, see her response in the other thread.

A regression can be discussed here, but it would definitely also need a 
issue/tracker/bug ticket.

Can you point us to the issue you filed for it, then we could use it as 
a base for the discussion if LO deals with regressions correctly or not.

I didn't file it (it was already filed), but it is:

Yes, and a patch was already been developed (wef 2014-08-17) and posted to
current 4.4.0alpha0+ builds of master.

Plenty of time to have been verified and then back-ported to 4.3 or even the
final 4.2 build.  But neither has been done, which is a responsibility for
affected users to advocate for. Especially corporate and business users that
want the goodies, but then choose not to participate in the QA process.  And
those users are somehow surprised when features don't work as expected, or
regressions are introduced.

The user community has responsibility in moving an open source project like
LibreOffice forward by being engaged during all development cycles. Test and
test often, and provide feedback in the correct channel--the project
Bugzilla and secondly these mail-list forums.

Regards the Still, and Fresh, and Pre-release, and master development
builds--not that complicated and necessary in a timed release development
project that LibreOffice adopted when formed. You'll note that the project
moves otherwise functional builds to legacy--End of Life--status shortly
after final  project build.  The current Still branch 4.2 will move to that
category next month!

The nuance folks miss is that development effort and willingness/capability
to correct issues is primarily out on the master branch.   Regressions ARE
very important, but are best corrected where/when they are being
introduced--to do that requires engagement.


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