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Hi Tim, all,
Le 07/08/2014 00:55, Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit :
On 08/06/2014 10:31 AM, Sophie wrote:
Le 06/08/2014 15:49, arakish a écrit :
So, you do go through stages.  You just misnomered them.

Why not just use that?

Release Candidate
Final Release Candidate (LO v4.3.0)
Stable (LO v4.2.6)
Please read this page to know more about our development process
and this to know more about the naming of our versions

May be you'll understand that both are fully tested and stable.
But LibreOffice is a software that is used in very different
environments that we can't reproduce in our own. That's why, the time
being, advanced users are helping us to reduce the number of bugs and
regressions, that doesn't make the version unstable however.

Kind regards

Thanks Sophie
I have had bugs that others did not.  One too an update of Ubuntu to
remove the "bug"/issue with that version of LO.  Another was fixed with
the next version or three.  There are too many systems out there, and
too many flavors of various operating systems, Linux being "named"
version of Linux and its version number, plus the different desktop
environments, etc..  Ubuntu 13.xx/14.xx has Unity, with post install
d.e.'s of KDE, MATE, Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome3, and many others, along with
Kubuntu, Lubuntu, and some others out there.  Then add Linux Mint
[Ubuntu based] different versions, and the other OS's that use .deb
installs.  Then add in all of the .rpm install types of Linux OS's. 
That is a lot of different combinations of version of Linux and desktop
environments out there.  I have some software that cannot run on the
newest Ubuntu or Mint software, since there were changes in the packages
needed in the display of a GUI - like Unity, MATE, KDE, etc..  So even
the different version numbers have differences that could be an issue,
or look like a bug, for LO and its user.  Then deal with Windows, and
Mac systems.  NO testing team, even a 100 people, could test all of the
functions of LO with every hardware, software, and OS/d.e. combination
out there.  The big software companies cannot, so why expect our
alpha/beta/release version testers to do that job and find all of those

That's it exactly :)

4.3.0 passed the "testing and release rules" to get "published". Sure
there will be issues in the x.x.0 version.  There may be unresolved
issues in the x.x.6/7 versions as well.  Many have not have had any
solutions found to resolve the issue[s] while others have not been
replicated by the testers or only by one or two and the developers have
not found what is causing the issues - yet.

I rarely pass on version below x.x.3 or .4 to others, and a lot of time
not install the x.x.0 version on my systems, unless there is a major
upgrade to a part of GUI or some other part of LO that I want to use. 
Some of the users will update their systems with each and every version
in a cycle till the next line comes out and then they go to that line's
x.x.0 version.


Our volunteer developers and testing users do their best, before the
version go beyond the beta stage AND during the different version number
updates.  They do their best.  Then we do our best to help the users who
have problems with LO till the developers and testers can figure out how
to fix the issue, if possible.  There are too few doing the work on
their own time after they get home from their "day jobs".  They are
volunteers and do not get paid.  The last time I knew, we had only one
paid person - the one who keeps our servers up and running.  Then the
money for that position comes from the donations to pay for the costs of
the hardware and bandwidth to keep [and its associated
sites] online and running properly.

Small correction here about paid persons by TDF, there is now the
Executive Director, the release manager, one person paid part time for
infra, and one person for L10/QA/release coordination and help on TDF
admin (me) and we will soon have a QA engineer.
see the Board decisions here:

I think we are doing a great job for a bunch of volunteers who do the
work after they come home from their "day jobs" and spend a few hours on
LO "stuff" taking those hours away from "family time". THANKS to all of
our volunteers and their families.

big +1 from my side :) thanks a lot for your support and your work too!
Kind regards

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