Re: [libreoffice-users] Base questions

The weird thing is that Java is havely used in the Oracle databases. How com they can have quite 
reliable databases...

Op 5 aug. 2014, om 15:35 heeft Tom Davies het volgende geschreven:

> Hi :)
> +1
>
> I think Base nearly does do the best way around.  The only problem is that
> the easiest thing, the embedded database, is currently dangerously broken.
> The devs appear to be addressing that although, obviously, they can't fix
> the whole thing all at one go.  The first step seems reasonably well chosen
> to get the main bulk away from java.
>
> I'm sure Java didn't used to be so awful.  It seems to have nose-dived
> since Oracle took over but maybe that is preparation for monetising it and
> that is a reasonable thing for a profit-making company to want to do.
>
> It's like the story of the scorpion and the fox crossing a river.  The
> scorpion stings the fox and as they both sink the fox asks why.  The
> scorpion replies that it's his nature to sting and he can't help it.  So
> can we really blame a profit-making company from attempting to subvert a
> free product it owns in order to later be able to sell an "enterprise" or
> "professional" version?
>
> It's a shame openJava can't escape and gather a huge community as
> LibreOffice did back when OpenOffice was owned by Oracle.
>
>
> Base currently allows users to start of by using an internal back-end and
> then move it to an external tool when they are ready.  [shrugs]  Seems a
> good plan to me.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> On 5 August 2014 13:33, Jon Harringdon <jonathan.harringdon@virgin.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > So I come back to my suggestion earlier today - LO Base needs to give
> > > > the user the opportunity to specify what they want - RAM or file
> > > > based, single file or multiple files.
> > >
> > > That would only confuse most end users.
> >
> > Hear, hear.
> >
> > > The point is that the developers should make the most reasonable
> > > choice
> >
> > This mindset will not help LO broaden its user base. Users (even if most
> > are apparently deemed stupid by some) should be in the driving seat and
> > not some anonymous "developers".
> >
> > Pip Coburn writes this about the tech industry: "I believe that users
> > are always in charge and that supply is a necessary but not sufficient
> > condition for commercial success. Companies and products geared toward
> > this holistic user orientation will succeed at far greater rates than
> > those stuck in a supplier-oriented mind-set." As far as I'm concerned
> > that hits the nail squarely on the head.
> >
> > And as to confusing users with complex choices... a well-designed system
> > can be simple for simple needs and complex for complex needs.
> >
> > One-size-fits-all rarely fits anyone.
> >
> > IMHO etc.
> >
> > Jon
> >
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