Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Will Libreoffice have a "LESS BUG version" in the future?

Hi

On 22 juin 2014 20:09:37 CEST, V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
> Paul-6 wrote
> > If you are more interested in stability and lack of bugs, OpenOffice
> is
> > a better choice, as I understand they are more focused on bug hunting
> > and not so much on new features.
>
> Hmm..., not sure I'd agree with that at all.  The Apache OpenOffice
> project
> is pushing out revisions as quickly as they are able.   And, being
> active in
> both projects I can say that it is simply not true that Apache
> OpenOffice is
> any more stable than LibreOffice. The Apache OpenOffice project has 
> its own
> share of code quality and functional issues in existing code and in new
> features that project devs wrangle with daily.
>
> The development model differs considerably, but both projects have
> moved
> forward substantial enhancements, many from Apache OpenOffice get
> routinely
> incorporated into LibreOffice.  But less so going the other direction
> due to
> Apache licensing restrictions.
>
> Older releases of LibreOffice remain publicly available in the projects
> archive server:
> http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/  so
> folks are
> welcome to stay at a particular release level if they have specific
> issues.  
> Developer support of these older releases has ceased, but it is not
> inappropriate to raise enhancement or bug reports against old versions
> as
> compared to builds in the current development cycle.
>
> Regards OPs  request for "Less Bug"--i.e. "less buggy" releases, the
> only
> way that happens is if we users participate during active development
> periods--testing across the office suite, and raising valid issues as
> bugs,
> and requesting valid enhancements for features not yet implemented or
> for
> features that may have been removed or altered so as to be unusable.
>
> We users should participate on either project, or both as our time and
> interests permit.  But at the least we must  provide concise,
> actionable
> feedback to other project participants.
>
> So, please use an older release of either project if it meets your
> needs--but please also make the effort to evaluate what continuing
> development has delivered, both in function and in quality of the
> suites.
> And then go ahead and participate.

I will not comment on AOO model but I will add to some of the very good things Stuart has written 
above concerning users involvement a few more thoughts.

First the notion that a project is geared more towards fixing bugs or rather more towards new 
features is not a good way to start. If you look at amount of cleanup of bug fixing that has been 
going on since 2010 you would see that we do constant and major bugfixing all the time. This is not 
an "or/if" situation. Also this assumes that we can dictate our contributors what to do. It is not 
that easy. LibreOffice devs are not employed by the Document Foundation , they get to work on what 
pleases them or whatrver particular bug or need they are paid to fix or meet.

Of course we have successful ways to attract developers to focus on ver specific points or issues. 
They are called easy hacks: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks

... but overall we cannot dictate them what to do. 

On the other hand the notion of quality is managed by our release model: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan

This allows us to let a branch improve its quality while enabling the newer one to receive more 
features. 

Is this all perfect? Of course it is not. No system is perfect ever. LibreOffice has millions of 
lines of code to constantly improve and at the same time must remain innovative. These are not 
orthogonal objectives but at the end if the day it is you and me who help make the "less bug" 
version. Last but not least this link might be of interest if you are curious about contributing 
without being technical: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA

Hope this helps,

Charles.


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