Re: [libreoffice-users] Draw problems

Hi Girvin,

Girvin Herr schrieb:
> Greetings,
> I am using Linux LO 3.6.7.2.  I see that Draw still has problems
> rendering drawings correctly as an embedded object.

Any chance to use a more recent version? Many bugs have been fixed in 
the meantime.

> I am editing small graphics figures in my document using Draw. These
> figures contain a graphical outline of an item using lines, boxes and
> circles as well as other details such as text, dimension arrows and lines.

Do you use Writer as target?

> These figures are inserted as "objects" in my document, along with the
> "figure" frame and title.

Do you have a special reason for using an OLE object instead of the 
drawing format? Because of the hangling of rulers and page margins in 
OLE objects I find it more precise to use the drawing format.

  The problem is that although the graphics
> look perfect while in Draw, when I click outside the embedded draw
> object to return to the document, parts of the figure are not rendered
> properly in relation to the other graphics in the figure, such as boxes
> and circles.  For example, the lines, arrows and text of the dimensions
> are offset vertically about 3/8" (by the "ruler") below the boxes, lines
> and circles of the item.  That will not do.

Have you checked, whether there is a bug report about such problems?

  The horizontal relationship
> seems correct.  The error is only in the vertical plane.  I used the
> print preview to verify these rendering errors are going to be printed
> and they are.

What is the size of the original draw document? How large is the target 
area? Do you draw in 1:1 scaling?

> Then I tried using Draw in stand-alone mode (not as an embedded object)
> to export the figure as a jpeg or png file

That is the way I usually work. But why you are using raster graphic 
instead of vector graphic?

 and inserting that file into
> the document.  I changed the Draw page margins to the 2" by 7.5" figure
> in order to exclude all but the figure.  However, these export functions
> only allow full page saves,

You can select the figure and check the option "Selection" in the export 
dialog.

 not the small 2" high by 7.5" wide figure I
> need.  When inserting the file into the document, I get a lot of white
> space and my figure is tiny.

You have to change the page size, not the margins, see (2) below.

 Changing the height and width parameters in
> the Draw export window has strange effects and does not alter the full
> page export.  Also the export width and height values interact with each
> other and do not allow specific settings.  That is a moot point, since
> they don't seem to work as expected anyway.

Width and height are bound together to keep ratio and are not intended 
to crop the drawing. If you get a wrong widths after setting dpi, simply 
set it again. Sometimes the dialog does not refresh correctly.

> It certainly looks like I cannot get what I reliably need from Draw.

You can, but not the way you try it.

> What I need to do should not be this difficult and frustrating.  Worst
> case, I guess I could print the Draw figure, and use Xsane to scan and
> save the area I need to insert into my document.  But that is silly and
> time consuming.  Does anyone have a better solution?

(1) Add a temporarily borderless, white-filled rectangle behind the 
figure, which is a little bit larger than the figure. The rectangle in 
background helps, that hairlines along the edges does not disappear. 
Then mark rectangle and figure together. In the export dialog check 
"Selection". Set dpi suitable for printing (300 dpi) or screen (72-96 dpi).

or

(2) Define a new Draw document with a page size, which fits to your 
figure. Mark the figure, copy it to clipboard and paste it into the new 
document. Export the new drawing to .svg format or .wmf format, or in 
case of LibreOffice as target .svm format works as well.

Insert it into the target document via Insert > Picture.


or

(3) Group the figure and copy and paste that group into Writer as 
drawing format.

or

(4) Group the figure and drag it into the Gallery. In Writer open the 
Gallery and pull the figure from there.


If you feel only "printing" would help, then do not print, but export to 
.pdf and use the capture feature of the pdf-reader. That works e.g. nice 
for charts in Calc in that old LibeOffice versions.

Kind regards
Regina

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