Re: [libreoffice-users] Just joined the list- users having trouble with gnome panels when using LibreOffice

On 01/24/2014 04:38 PM, Tony Godshall wrote:
> > > > We generally recommend you install from PPA's not from the website. Our
> > > > debian packages on the website are not packaged explicitly for Ubuntu --
> > > > much better to stick to PPA's which are packaged by Bjoern (Canonical
> > > > employee) specifically for Ubuntu. If I were you, I'd purge LIbreOffice
> > > > completely and install through ppa without OpenOffice installed.
> ...
>
> > > I never heard of the PPA over website version install recommendation
> > > before.
> quote
>
> Most of the packages in this PPA have only experienced minor testing
> -- in fact it is the place to enable a wider audience to test packages
> before they are published into the distro proper. In general, this PPA
> is _not_ for the average user to install without a closer look (if it
> would be, its packages would be in the main repositories). OTOH, it is
> _way_ _better_ to use packages from this PPA than using the *.deb
> files that The Document Foundation provides upstream. So, _if_ you
> want to be on the bleeding edge, do it here, not with upstream
> *.debs."
>
> end quote from https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa
>
> ...

That is the problem with PPAs, the bleeding edge version.

I would never recommend the PPA to people because it is the "bleeding 
edge" version.  I only recommend the versions of LO that have .4 or 
larger at its "tail end".  That is 4.1.2 out, but 4.1.4 in.  I waited 
till 4.1.4 to upgrade from the last of the 4.0.x line.  And, if nothing 
changes, I may wait for 4.2.4 to upgrade to that new line.

If the PPA only had the release versions of LO and not the "nightly 
build" or "RC" type of version of LO, then I would have to look into 
using the PPA again.

I see no real problem in installing the .deb or the .rpm version of LO.  
Sure it has a few steps, but you know exactly which version you are 
installing.  Right now, it is simple to do.  1 - download the files.  2 
- un-archive them.  3 - rename the long folder name to Lib for the 
installer and Lib2 for the help pack.  That is easier for me than typing 
the long folder names in the Terminal.  [yes there may be a shorter way, 
but I keep forgetting it]  4 - go to the proper folder by doing "cd Lib" 
then "cd DEBS".  5 - run the command "sudo dpkg -i *.deb".  Maybe one 
day I will make a script to do the #4 and #5 actions for me, but it is 
not really needed.

Actually, it would be nice if someone included a .sh script in the 
packages so once it is un-archived, then all you need to to is run the 
script instead of going through all the steps to install it yourself.

Yes, PPAs would be easier, but I do not want the "bleeding edge" versions.

Anything to make it easier for our Linux users would be nice. Actually, 
it would be nice to have a script that would have some of the functions 
like the Windows installer does.  That way it would be easier and you 
get to easily choose not to add the other languages, like French and 
Spanish, during the install.  You give Windows users that option, but 
you require Linux users to include those languages unless they go into 
the .deb files and remove the proper packages needed, for installing the 
other languages that you do not want, without messing up the .deb or 
.rpm install.  So having a script that asks you the language and 
dictionary questions would help. Actually, HP has their printer driver 
installer in a script, for the .deb installs.  You run the script and 
are asked a question or three during the process.  Then the script does 
all of the hard work, including making sure all of the dependencies are 
installed, if nay are needed.  Of course, they have a MAKE command in 
the process that the LO installer would not need, but it is an idea.





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