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I wanted to reply and let everybody know that the workaround using FREQUENCY works fine. The sheet is now out for users to test and will be going through a few cosmetic changes, but it works. If you are curious, the sheet is a vehicle mileage sheet for company vehicles, but I will be using it for my personal truck as well. It has all kinds of useful information such as monthly average mpg/fuel cost/miles driven, as well as the minimum and maximum of those variables. The cover sheet has averages for the entire year. Simple to use and very useful for our crew.

Thanks again for all of the help! I will file a feature request when I get time. Being the lead IT and IS guy in a small business keeps me busy...

On 01/06/2014 05:40 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
You guys are over-complicating it.  Just post a "feature request" via
the bug-reporting system

Similar problems occur in proprietary systems too but with less chance
of reporting the problem.  Also the bosses need to understand the
problem and give it more attention than their golf handicap before
bothering to do anything about it.  If it doesn't affect profits then
why spend money on fixing it?  OpenSource allows anyone to get on with
sorting out a fix without having to wait for the bosses to give the

Also although the organisational structure is largely non-hierarchical
there are still ISO standards and other external rules to guide
development, there are committees, working groups, team discussions
and informal chats.  At worst, development becomes more Darwinian with
successful forks developing and taking the lead positions but getting
inspired by other projects and even copying chunks of code from them.
Look at how Ubuntu was in the number 1 slot at Distrowatch for years
but now Mint has taken over.  Mandrake evolved into Mandriva but then
forked into Mageia and now Mageia is far higher than either of it's
forebears managed.

Regards from
Tom :)

On 6 January 2014 09:46, Peter West <> wrote:
Peter West

"Where is he who has been born king of the Jews?"

On 6 Jan 2014, at 6:11 pm, James E Lang <> wrote:

This has been a most enlightening discussion.

I am a big fan of open source software. That said, this discussion has shined a bright light on one 
of the most problematic areas of the concept.

I might be totally off base here but as I view it, without a central management structure to 
_enforce_ standards two separate groups of developers may develop what appear to the end user as 
being similar related features that are inconsistent with each other. This results in unpleasant 
surprises for the end user.
If there had been a central management structure to _enforce_ standards, there would be NO open 
source software, full stop. No linux, no OS X, no samba, no python, no MySql, no Open Office and no 
Libre Office, to mention but a few.

The productivity of OSS development teams, imperfect as it is, cannot be matched by any structures 
designed for the management of software development. It is only matched by startups with small, 
committed teams and inspired technical leadership. Success and rapid increases in the scale of the 
development teams kills their productivity. Companies that have carved out a fantastically 
profitable niche can survive this transition, bit they can only retain a fraction of their original 

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