[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing extensions

On 10/15/13 3:25 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> Le 14/10/2013 21:02, Ken Springer a écrit :
>
> Hi Ken,
> > I say this because I thought I read in a help file somewhere all you had
> > to do was place the extension in that folder and restart LO.  Which
> > didn't work.  LOL  So, went to find said help file, now I can't.  That's
> > not good.  <sigh>
>
> I'm not convinced that this actually works, but am willing to be proved
> wrong. The way extension installation and registration worked (still
> works ?) was that active registration was required. In other words, the
> Extension Manager (and unopkg) did the work of actively registering the
> extension within the LO application framework. There was a change during
> 4.x development to switch some extensions to passive registration,
> perhaps that was the sense of what you read somewhere (I can only think
> of the developer's list or dev wiki for that, but I don't know my way
> around everything within LO).

Before I found the remove button, which I mentioned earlier, I manually 
removed 3 extensions from the Extensions folder.  It didn't seem to make 
any difference.  After reading your post, I put them back, only to 
discover there is no removed button for them.  That doesn't set 
positively with me.  I went back and manually removed them again.

We'll see what happens later.

> At present, current development (in the master repo) has focussed on
> having the LO project built-in extensions use a particular prefix to
> separate those extensions that are built "natively" and those that have
> to be added by the user/admin. I don't really understand the what or the
> why behind it as I'm not a developer, but have been trying to follow
> that on the dev mailing list.
>
>
> > I don't follow today's norm for data/file storage on my computers.  Both
> > this Mac and all the Windows machines I own, I create that storage
> > somewhere else other than the OS partition.
>
> I have tried that in the past, but on OSX, the LO application is an
> application bundle, and if you don't install an extension into the main
> app corresponding directory, then you have to be able to make sure that
> the user installation directory is visible to the main app. As the user
> profile config is stored in
> /Application Support/LibreOffice

I was referring to the data I create, stuff downloaded, images, etc.  If 
an application wants to put things in a particular location, I let it. 
There are a lot of Windows users who do this, I'm not one of them.  That 
just seems to me to be asking for trouble.

> or whatever name I choose to call it, provided it matches the name of my
> LO app, I'm not sure if that still works if your user profile config
> folder is stored somewhere else. Certainly, I see no scope for that
> working with the main app bundle extensions directory, as I'm assuming,
> perhaps wrongly, that this is hardcoded.
>
>
> > I missed that earlier.  They just *had* to make it small text, they
> > couldn't have made it a button????  Developers and web site designers
> > have forgotten how to design for total newbies, which is how I look at
> > all software, web sites, and OS interfaces.  As if today, humans are not
> > born with the computer knowledge and skills many developers and web site
> > designers seem to take for granted all users have.
>
> Oh I agree that LO is far from having an intuitve interface. The problem
> is that we all beg to differ on what an intuitive UI should be like.
> Current thinking in the LO UX (user experience) group, if I understand
> correctly, is to adhere to the Elementary OS HMI guidelines :
>
> http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/human-interface-guidelines
>
> Whether that thinking will move things along in the direction you would
> like, I really have no idea.

I look more for consistency with in an application, more than it should 
look like all the rest.  So the remove button should be in the same 
place as the install button.  Whether it's a round button, square 
button, pink with purple polka dots, I don't care.  Just keep similarly 
grouped functions in the same spot.

--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.1.2


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