Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc

Hi :) 
Better compatibility with the formats sometimes means using a branch early in it's life-cycle and 
that sometimes means it might not be 100% as stable as the x.x.4 of the earlier branch.  

So it's a balancing act for which  we each need to find our own comfort-zone.  


Usually whichever you choose is good enough to open almost anything.  It's increasingly rare to 
manage to find something that doesn't open at all.  It's more a question of how perfect you want it 
to look.  Usually it looks better in LO than just a different version of MSO from whichever one 
created it but that's not always true either.  It's all a bit unpredictable with MSO formats.  To 
some extent that is also true with any format and any program but i tend to find it's mostly MSO 
formats that suffer most.  

The best bet, right now, is to use Doc as an intermediary format.  MS have stopped developing new 
features for it but might still be doing bug-fixes, maybe.  So it's less likely to create 
surprises.  DocX keeps popping up with surprises.  Odt is stable because it's developed by a 
committee and LO complies with that although by default it adds a little extra but again that 
little extra is well documented.  So, Odt is likely to become the best choice and i tend to use it 
like that already because all machines in this office already have LibreOffice.  In any other place 
or for "outsiders" i might use Doc still and i still encourage outsiders to give me Docs (and 
sometimes that means teaching them where the "Save As..." option is).  However, like i said we all 
need to find our own sweet-spots and see how that changes as ODF becomes more widely accepted.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Katanohporos <katanophoros@gmail.com>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 15:08
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
>
>
> Well I think for easier migration it would be nicer to have the best 
> compatibility with MS formats because:
>
> Many companies may have a HUGE amount of documents so it would cost 
> effective to buy a MS licence instead of spending time to convert all 
> these files into odf and free formats.
>
> On 13/08/2013 08:53 μμ, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
> > On 08/13/2013 05:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > It's quite likely. A bug-report is a good idea. An example file might 
> > > help.
> > >
> > > Btw i assume your MSO users have stuck with some ancient version of 
> > > MSO, such as 2007 or something? I think the compatibility with 2013 
> > > is better and that is likely to create problems with compatibility 
> > > with older versions of MSO.
> > This implication concerns me! If LO is going to drop .doc as a 
> > standard, then my advice to others to use .doc instead of .docx as a 
> > common interchange standard is in jeopardy. I hope LO never drops .doc 
> > as a standard. That said, I had to open a .docx form I received the 
> > other week and LO opened it fine, with the exception of the usual font 
> > size problems that ran text off the right margin. That was easily 
> > fixed by changing the font size.
> > Regards.
> > Girvin Herr
> >
> > > Are you sure it's .Doc rather than .DocX that is causing the problem? 
> > > Most MSO users have no idea how to save in anything other than DocX 
> > > so it's FAR more likely they are sending you DocX files and not even 
> > > realising it or even believing they are sending Doc because they just 
> > > don't really know what they are using and just jumping on the last 
> > > name they vaguely recognise. Windows tries to hide the endings so 
> > > they really don't know what they are using most of the time.
> > >
> > > Doc itself is being deprecated in order to push people into using the 
> > > newer DocX and thus forcing people to buy newer versions of MSO even 
> > > if it's to do exactly the same work that MSO 2003 and earlier could do.
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen <vliscony@gmail.com>
> > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:27
> > > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - 
> > > > comments in .doc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file 
> > > > compatibility with
> > > > MSO...
> > > >
> > > > Currently I am working on a project with MSO users and when I open a 
> > > > .doc
> > > > which contains any comments, what happens is the last character 
> > > > BEFORE the
> > > > comment anchor is reduced in font size, and therefore when you 
> > > > delete the
> > > > comment, you now have to go into the text to fix the font size.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone had the same? I think it's time for a bug report.
>
>
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