[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse

Hello Davies,

In the case of LO you're right and manual install will not cause any issue.
But as a typical user of Linux I prefer installing applications from the
default or 3rd party repo. Because this way is easier and mainly because
of AUTOMATIC UPDATE capability.
But many members of this list (like you and Regina) are more than just
typical users of Linux and are somehow professional LO users. Therefor
in this case you're right and manual install can be a good option too.
Anyway it's up to you.

Best,
   Sina



On 08/09/2013 09:01 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)  
> This is all true but LibreOffice and Evolution are exceptions because most repos have such older 
> versions that most people want to upgrade.  
>
> LO has some tweaks for different DEs (that's what the desktop integration is about (i think)) and 
> so mostly it's preferable to have the more advanced features rather than just a slightly nicer 
> looking one.  LO looks quite nice enough from the site as it is.  Also i don't think there is a 
> problem with dependency issues.  Mostly the package managers take care of all that although some 
> distros make that quite tough (not looking at anyone in particular Girvin (Slackware right?)).  I 
> think you state that in point 3 so i am just agreeing there.  There is not much danger of the 
> problems in 4 although it's theoretically possible.  
>
> So i think you raise over-complicated points that are not really relevant.  Since most of the 
> rest of us also do that quite often you are in the right place :)  Welcome in too! :D
> Regards from
> Tom :)  
>
>
>
>
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Sina Momken <digitsm@gmail.com>
> > To: Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-online.de> 
> > Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> > Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 15:40
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
> >
> >
> > On 08/09/2013 03:22 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I make my first steps in using Linux and have got a OpenSuse 12.3 on my
> > > old Notebook. Now I try to install LO4.1. I have download the archive,
> > > unpacked it and followed the instructions in its readme. 
> >
> > Hello Regina,
> > I appreciate your efforts to shift to Free Software. However in the
> > Linux world unlike in Windows most users use Repositories to install,
> > manage and update applications. There are many advantages of using repos:
> > 1- The repo itself tracks latest version of applications and so you can
> > always be updated without the need to download and update your
> > applications one by one.
> > 2- All packages in a repo are consistent with each other. As you may
> > know many packages depend on others (i.e. libraries); When you manually
> > install a software which is not in repo, it may need some libraries
> > which are not present and so the software may not work properly or it
> > leads to upgrade of those libraries which may break some other
> > applications (in case the library upgrade is not backward compatible
> > e.g. gnome 3.8).
> > 3- You can download and install a .rpm (for fedora and suse) or .deb
> > (for ubuntu and debian) file of a software. In this case all
> > dependencies will be checked and only if no incompatibility exists it
> > allows installation. This method is safer but it lacks automatic upgrade
> > feature.
> > 4- Mostly professional users and usually for specific purposes manually
> > download archive (.tar.gz) of a software from its website and then
> > follow the inner instructions to install it. There is a convention to
> > install manually installed software to /opt (abbreviation for optional)
> > to differentiate them from software installed from repos. Not only you
> > can not automatically update software installed with this method, but
> > also the software may not work properly due to inconsistencies.
> > 5- Windows applications usually solve the inconsistency problem by
> > installing most of their needed libraries again. This solution usually
> > ends to applications which occupy huge size on the disk, which is mostly
> > redundant.
> >
> > Therefore I recommend you to install your desired application (e.g.
> > libreoffice) from OpenSuse repository directly. It seems that the latest
> > version of LO in OpenSuse 12.3 official repo is 3.6.3. So if you want to
> > install the latest version of LO, you can use 3rd party repos specific
> > to OpenSuse. I could find two 3rd party repos for LO for OpenSuse 12.3:
> > 1. Repo named LO Stable with version 4.0.3 with URL
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_12.3/
> > 2. Repo named LO Unstable with version 4.1.0 with URL
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Unstable/openSUSE_12.3/
> >
> > These repos must update automatically when newer version of LO come out
> > and so you can update your installed LO in the future only with some
> > clicks, no more efforts.
> >
> > For instructions on how to add a repository see:
> > http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Add_package_repositories
> >
> > For the list of all official, semi-official and 3rd party repos see:
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Package_repositories
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_package_repositories#LibreOffice_STABLE
> >
> > > I can get the single modules from the application launcher, but there
> > remain two
> > > problems.
> > > (1)
> > > The instruction mention a directory "desktop-integration" to be in the
> > > folder RPMS, but there is no such directory.
> > > (2)
> > > I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center,
> > > not a specific module. How do I get that?
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > > Regina
> >
> >
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