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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:13:45 +0200, Kracked_P_P---webmaster <> wrote:

On 07/27/2013 11:32 AM, Joel Madero wrote:
On 07/27/2013 08:16 AM, sun shine wrote:
On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
As a "first installment"...
- What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various
parts of LO
  doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no "LibreOffice"
icon for
  the complete package, only icons for the various parts...
- Yes, I DID delete LO befor trying to install 4.1 (apt-get purge
- I know the aspect of the "desktop-integration" subdirectory
existing in
  prior versions. What do you mean be "seamless ... installation
  I ran dpkg -i *deb in all of the three DEBS-directories in the
correct sequence
  (but obviously no dpkg -i *deb within a desktop-integration
subdirectory because
  it does not exist in LO 4.1). Is there anything in addition that I
have to do?
- How do I check the "menu edit" options?
I have reverted back to 3.6.7 now, may uninstall that version
completely and
try to install 4.1. But - honestly - it is MUCH to hot here at the
moment to
do so and not to prefer going for a glass of beer... (smiley!)

Just a heads up - I didn't read the whole thread but I suspect this is
the normal lack of desktop integration which others have brought up.
This happens because of mixing the TDF package with the distro
packages. You must completely purge your system of all libreoffice
stuff if you are going from a distro build to a TDF build (the
document foundation from If you install TDF package
over distro package you hit snags. We are going to update release
notes in the future to reflect this but in general I (and many others)
recommend not upgrading until your distro packages LibreOffice into
their repos OR from official PPA's as many don't now what completely
purging means or know how to do it exactly and then run into these
kind of problems.

QA Volunteer

Sorry, but I had to "purge" 4.0.3 before I installed 4.0.4.  I run
Ubuntu 12.04LTS and I think it uses 3.5.7 as its default install of LO.
I have had to do the removal of the old version of LO throughout the
3.6.x line and for every 4.0.x version I have installed as well.  So it
does not "completely" involve the original version that the distro
installs.  Or at least for me.  I seem to remember having to do the same
with Mint and another Debian-based distro I tested before.

Also, I do not install the PPA's for LO or most other package.

I just stick with downloading the installs from the LO download
page[s].  I tend to download about 90 files each time for the NA-DVD
when each new version comes out.  There are 7 less since 4.1.0 does not
support Mac OSX PPC systems.


As for the heat, well we have a few days off that in New York State
right this moment.  Before that we were going record heat and high
humidity.  Also, in the EMT training I took in the late 80's to give me
the "health credits I needed for college, the tell you to avoid alcohol
during heat and cold.  It might make you feel good but it make the heat
and cold worse for you body.  Some would tell me I am wrong, but it was
in my text book[s].

I myself, because of my meds, feel the heat and cold much worse than
many others in my building.  Below 75 degrees I am really cold and above
80 I feel like it is in the high 90's or worse.  Between the pain meds
and the nerve damage, I just want to do nothing during the worst of the
heat, even though I try and keep my place under 80 degrees with my air
conditioner and fans.  The there is the 120+ degree heat in the car on
those days above 90 degrees outside. Takes 10 minutes to get my car cool
enough to be able to drive.  So we all tend to "shut down" as much as we
can when the heat is in full force.

Hi Joel,

I don't remember EVER installing a distro package for LO but ALWAYS use
the TDF-download site. Again, before trying to install 4.1 I did
apt-get purge libreoffice* (as suggested somewhere on the www in order to
"clear" the slate!). Also - maybe being Central European? - I have really
settled on KDE. I have become accustomed to it, it performs quite well enough
for me at V4.10 and I love it.

There is the threat of having to migrate so much (such as PIM etc.) in case of
changing to any other desktop environment. As I mentioned before, I have settled
on using 3.6.7 for the time being. It works just fine for me. Even as an
old IBM systems engineer I find that even though I love doing so I anyway fiddle
quite enough with Linux.

However - from my professional days - I have unfortunately carried over to
retirement the infection called "versionitis". Obviously this causes this kind
of problems...

Regarding heat and beer: while I definitely acknoledge what you say about
that - maybe, if you should ever make it to Salzburg, I can introduce you
to the shady beergarden next to the monastery that has been brewing their
stuff for centuries and serve it in nice cool beer steins which you personally
cool with clean cold mountain water before "inserting" the stuff from the
wooden barrel. After working out in gym for an hour or so there is not much
that can equal the first gulp of fresh hops/malt at just the right temperature...
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