Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?

Hi :)
Ahah.  Yes, it is not in the Ubuntu-ised versions and probably not on the direct "upstream" 
download for any Gnu&Linux.  It's only on the Windows version.  

Most programs seem to have their update thing in their "Help" menu so it would be good to have 
there too but i quite like it being so 'noticeable' [coughs].  Even if it's a bit ambiguous and 
then doesn't quite do what you would expect when you do figure it out.  There is no reason i know 
of to have the feature in just one place as different places could point to the same actions.  

That is interesting to hear about the different icon styles.  It turns out that there are quite a 
selection that you can download to personalise your version of LibreOffice.  i haven't quite found 
out where yet.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






> ________________________________
> From: M Henri Day <mhenriday@gmail.com>
> To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> 
> Cc: Joel Madero <jmadero.dev@gmail.com>; Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>; 
> "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013, 13:43
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
>
>
>
> 2013/6/27 Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> Hi :)
> > I'm on an Xp machine (well on the Windows side of a dual-boot machine) and LO 4.0.3 has a tiny 
> > little green arrow on the far right at the top just under the minimise, window, close buttons.  
> > When i wave the mouse arrow over it a tool-tips yellow bubble appears telling me an update is 
> > available.  
> >
> > Sadly when i click on that the magic doesn't happen.  It just opens a tab in Firefox taking me to 
> > the downloads page.  
> >
> > Something else i find odd about the UI is that sometimes the "Save" button/icon looks like a 
> > floppy-disk (anyone else remember them?) and sometimes has a more modern, errr green arrow again. 
> > I was proudly boasting to someone that LO was so advanced that it was the 1st program to move 
> > away from using the floppy-disk icon and then he showed me it was still there. 
 Grrrr
> > Anyway, getting back on-topic it seems the protable version has been released at last.  Florian 
> > did his magic tricks and it's appeared.  
> > Regards from 
> > Tom :)  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: M Henri Day <mhenriday@gmail.com>
> > > To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> 
> > > Cc: Joel Madero <jmadero.dev@gmail.com>; Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>; 
> > > "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> > > Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 17:15
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/27 Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
> > >
> > > > Hi :)
> > > > Ok, that makes sense.  The problem now is to make the upgrade smoother so
> > > > it's easier to upgrade within a branch, eg from
> > > > 4.0.1 to
> > > > 4.0.2 and onwards.
> > > >
> > > > Preferably not completely automatic but easy enough so that users can
> > > > click on the upgrade button even if they don't have Super User / Admin
> > > > level privileges.  Like Firefox allows.
> > > >
> > > > At the moment i think people still have to download and do a fresh install
 of the newer release even if it is in the same branch.
> > > > I do get the impression that is what the devs are aiming for anyway.  The
> > > > little green arrow is fairly new.  At the moment it just lets you know
> > > > there is a new version to download but it looks like one day it will be
> > > > possible to just click on that and sit back to watch the magic.
> > > >
> > > > Regards from
> > > > Tom :)
> > >
> > > Generally speaking, Tom, my experience is that one has to go to the
> > > LibreOffice website and download the latest and greatest step every time it
> > > is released ; it is rarely that I see an update notice and that little
> > > green arrow. The above holds true for Windows 7 and 8 ; on Linux Mint all I
> > > have to do is wait for the Ubuntu PPAs to get updated - it took perhaps a
> > > little more than a week after the 4.0.4.2 was released for it automatically
> > > to be installed over 4.0.3.3. Hitherto I'm ver impressed with it
 - it seems
> > > to load even more quickly than its predecessor. Kudos to the developers !...
> > >
> > > Henri
>
> <...>
>
> Tom I've just finished upgrading 10 machines with different versions of Windows - Win7 and Win8 - 
> installed (on my Linux HDDs - Mint 15 and Ubuntu 12.04 - I let the Ubuntu PPA do the heavy lifting 
> for me) and the arrow you mention above - which I do remember having seen earlier, but not 
> consistently , never appeared. I'd like to suggest the following for the consideration of the 
> developers : placing a link to a «Check/Search for updates» feature under «Help» in the LO menu 
> bar. This would correspond to received usage - and thus be «intuitive» to many users - and 
> facilitate checking for updates even if, as in my case, the arrow that is supposed to appear under 
> the window-management buttons should fail to do so....
>
> Henri
>
> PS : On Linux Mint 15 with the Cinnamon desktop interface, the «Save» and «Save as» icons are an 
> A4 sheet with an arrow pointing downwards to the right. Easy to understand (and the tool tip does 
> say «Save»).  Agree with you that it's high time the floppy disk icon was replaced - when I ask my 
> retirees what they think it is, they almost invariably reply : «an old-fashioned TV»....
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