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Hi :)
Ahah.  Yes, it is not in the Ubuntu-ised versions and probably not on the direct "upstream" 
download for any Gnu&Linux.  It's only on the Windows version.  

Most programs seem to have their update thing in their "Help" menu so it would be good to have 
there too but i quite like it being so 'noticeable' [coughs].  Even if it's a bit ambiguous and 
then doesn't quite do what you would expect when you do figure it out.  There is no reason i know 
of to have the feature in just one place as different places could point to the same actions.  

That is interesting to hear about the different icon styles.  It turns out that there are quite a 
selection that you can download to personalise your version of LibreOffice.  i haven't quite found 
out where yet.  

Regards from
Tom :)  

From: M Henri Day <>
To: Tom Davies <> 
Cc: Joel Madero <>; Virgil Arrington <>; 
"" <> 
Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013, 13:43
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?

2013/6/27 Tom Davies <>

Hi :)
I'm on an Xp machine (well on the Windows side of a dual-boot machine) and LO 4.0.3 has a tiny 
little green arrow on the far right at the top just under the minimise, window, close buttons.  
When i wave the mouse arrow over it a tool-tips yellow bubble appears telling me an update is 

Sadly when i click on that the magic doesn't happen.  It just opens a tab in Firefox taking me to 
the downloads page.  

Something else i find odd about the UI is that sometimes the "Save" button/icon looks like a 
floppy-disk (anyone else remember them?) and sometimes has a more modern, errr green arrow again. 
I was proudly boasting to someone that LO was so advanced that it was the 1st program to move 
away from using the floppy-disk icon and then he showed me it was still there. 

Anyway, getting back on-topic it seems the protable version has been released at last.  Florian 
did his magic tricks and it's appeared.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  

From: M Henri Day <>
To: Tom Davies <> 
Cc: Joel Madero <>; Virgil Arrington <>; 
"" <> 
Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 17:15

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?

2013/6/27 Tom Davies <>

Hi :)
Ok, that makes sense.  The problem now is to make the upgrade smoother so
it's easier to upgrade within a branch, eg from
4.0.1 to
4.0.2 and onwards.

Preferably not completely automatic but easy enough so that users can
click on the upgrade button even if they don't have Super User / Admin
level privileges.  Like Firefox allows.

At the moment i think people still have to download and do a fresh install

 of the newer release even if it is in the same branch.

I do get the impression that is what the devs are aiming for anyway.  The
little green arrow is fairly new.  At the moment it just lets you know
there is a new version to download but it looks like one day it will be
possible to just click on that and sit back to watch the magic.

Regards from
Tom :)

Generally speaking, Tom, my experience is that one has to go to the
LibreOffice website and download the latest and greatest step every time it
is released ; it is rarely that I see an update notice and that little
green arrow. The above holds true for Windows 7 and 8 ; on Linux Mint all I
have to do is wait for the Ubuntu PPAs to get updated - it took perhaps a
little more than a week after the was released for it automatically
to be installed over Hitherto I'm ver impressed with it
 - it seems
to load even more quickly than its predecessor. Kudos to the developers !...



Tom I've just finished upgrading 10 machines with different versions of Windows - Win7 and Win8 - 
installed (on my Linux HDDs - Mint 15 and Ubuntu 12.04 - I let the Ubuntu PPA do the heavy lifting 
for me) and the arrow you mention above - which I do remember having seen earlier, but not 
consistently , never appeared. I'd like to suggest the following for the consideration of the 
developers : placing a link to a «Check/Search for updates» feature under «Help» in the LO menu 
bar. This would correspond to received usage - and thus be «intuitive» to many users - and 
facilitate checking for updates even if, as in my case, the arrow that is supposed to appear under 
the window-management buttons should fail to do so....


PS : On Linux Mint 15 with the Cinnamon desktop interface, the «Save» and «Save as» icons are an 
A4 sheet with an arrow pointing downwards to the right. Easy to understand (and the tool tip does 
say «Save»).  Agree with you that it's high time the floppy disk icon was replaced - when I ask my 
retirees what they think it is, they almost invariably reply : «an old-fashioned TV»....

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