Re: [libreoffice-users] Java

       Thanks.



On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi :)
> I think Dan's point is key.
>
> If you don't seem to need it then don't use it.  I thik that's a good
> general rule.  A bit like if no-one is in the kitchen then why have the
> lights on in there?
>
> Micheal Meeks was saying that it's still ok to write Extensions in Java
> but you are not writing Extensions.  You are like me, just a normal user.
>  His advice does seem to contradict everything i am hearing about Java at
> the moment.  The devs seem to have put a lot of effort into reducing the
> amount of Java to the point where most users are unlikely to ever need it.
>
> However, Micheal is one of the lead devs and well respected so he is much
> more likely to really know what is really going on whereas my information
> is 2nd or 3rd hand and i'm not a dev so i could easily be missing some
> crucial points.  I think maybe i was a bit too harsh about blaming Oracle
> for all of Java's problems.  Maybe it was horribly broken before or that
> currrent problems were inevitable or maybe reported problems are
> over-stated.
>
> I switched Java off months ago and had no problems so i finally
> uninstalled it around December and still had no problems.  I think that is
> the best route.  Removing Java completely could be troublesome so it's best
> to have a trial-period of seeing if you can do without it before
> uninstalling it.  You probably wouldn't take the bulb out of the kitchen
> light just because you didn't think you would go into the kitchen at night.
>  It appears that Homeland Security in the US are recommending people
> uninstall it but that could be a bogus report and even if not then it seems
> they may not have considered the implications for normal or corporate users.
>
> A couple of machines at my place where Java is still installed grumble
> when i open Firefox now, roughly since the Homeland Security report
> apparently.  Firefox now offers to update various plugins and things such
> as Adobe Flash-Player, Adobe Reader(?!) and Java but then tells me it's
> automatically blocked Java for me anyway.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> > From: anne-ology <laginnis@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Java
> > To: "Dan" <elderdanlewis@gmail.com>
> > Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Date: Friday, 22 March, 2013, 17:56
> >        Well,
> > I guess I don't need it/them since any program I open seems
> > to
> > work fine -
> >            except the A-V
> > program every so often pops up stating my system
> > is in-secure due to some items not being up-dated  ;-)
> >                 [I
> > click to see to what they're referring - it's the
> > disabled java - maybe its not completely disabled, huh
> > ;-) ]
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Dan Lewis <elderdanlewis@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >       What are you using in LibreOffice that
> > requires Java? Is there
> > > something that you would like to use that requires
> > Java? If so, by all
> > > means update and enable it. Otherwise don't do anything
> > about it.
> > >      I have Java enabled because I work
> > with Base much of the time. (It
> > > requires Java.) Otherwise, I probably would not need it
> > myself.
> > > --Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 03/22/2013 11:06 AM, anne-ology wrote:
> > >
> > > >         Yikes, now
> > I'm confused; yes, again  ;-)
> > > >         I've had java
> > disabled on this machine; but maybe its time to
> > > > re-enable it - updating it  ;-)
> > > >
> > > >         Tom, do you
> > know more re. java ...
> > > >              or
> > Michael, do you know something more re. this.
> > > >         Eagerly
> > awaiting to hear what to do re. this java;
> > > >              and
> > please remember I don't comprehend computerese  ;-)
> > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Michael Meeks
> > <michael.meeks@suse.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 11:27 +0000, Tom Davies
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Now that Oracle are in charge of developing
> > it Java seems to be
> > > > > > increasing as a security risk.
> > > > >          You're
> > smoking some good stuff here Tom ;-> Oracle are no doubt
> > > > > improving the situation they inherited in Java
> > just fine. Last I heard
> > > > > rumour that RedHat were stepping up to support
> > older versions too.
> > > > >          It's a
> > sensible thing to use Java for writing cross-platform
> > > > > LibreOffice extensions. The only problem we
> > have is with writing core
> > > > > functionality in Java - since we can't be sure
> > of the presence of a
> > > > > suitable JVM on Windows machines.
> > > > >
> > > > >          HTH,
> >     Michael.
> > > > > --
> > > > > michael.meeks@suse.com
> > <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
> > > > >

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