At 06:06 20/12/2012 +0000, Tom Davies wrote:
At 04:18 20/12/2012 +0000, Brian Barker wrote:
At 00:14 20/12/2012 +0800, Nobody Noname wrote:
... there is a thing that, if we cannot strictly to define as a
BUG, is, at least, a "defect" regarding the right typography. I
mean the behavior of footnotes versus the text body contained in
subsequent pages. professionally formatted books, look like this
[...] as you can see, footnotes (last footnote) are perfectly
vertically aligned with the last line of text in following page,
while if we insert a footnote in OpenOffice/Libreoffice, this is
what we get [...] an horrible difference between footnote and last
line of body text that result not aligned that makes appearance of
documents with footnotes very ugly
Each page has an area within its margins where text may appear. If
there is not sufficient space for a further line at the bottom of a
page, it will be carried over to the next page, possibly leaving a
small amount of unused vertical space within the text area of the
page. If different pages have different type sizes or different
paragraph spacing - or even just a different number of paragraphs -
the bases of bottom lines may well not match up. In the case of
your example, the spacing and the rule before the footnote and the
reduced type size of the footnote itself all add up to mean that
there can be no guarantee that the bases of the bottom lines will match up.
In order to correct this problem, you need to make small alteration
to details of one or other page. It may be that you can remedy
things by changing the bottom page margin slightly - but if you do
that for the page style of the whole document, you are likely to
introduce similar problems on other pages. The simplest solution
may be to increase slightly the line spacing on the second page.
if making this enhancement is not too hard, it will be a great
step toward dtp for LibreOffice
It's not clear what you want to happen here. Do you want the line
spacing on your second page to be increased slightly so as better
to fill the page? Or do you want the space before the footnote to
be increased? Or both of these? Or, if (as would be usual) you
had more than one paragraph on each page, would you want the
paragraph spacing to be adjusted to suit? Or some combination of all these?
It's worth mentioning that you are comparing your word processor
results with - as you say - the appearance of a professionally
produced book. In that case, a quite separate process - "layout" -
is carried out after the text is finalised. This is done is layout
software, not in word processing software. Any modifications to
the text - even minor ones - after this would potentially upset the
appearance, so this is done in the final stages of production. And
I doubt whether this is ever completely automated, in fact: rather,
I imagine that expert user of layout software makes minor
adjustments to achieve the sort of smart appearance that you crave.
So you are asking for OpenOffice or LibreOffice to become layout
software as well as word processing software. I have no idea
whether its developers would wish to do this.
Wow!! Errr, is that something that LaTex or Scribus might be better at?
I'm not an expert in layout software, but I suspect that yes: both of
these products have the required facilities.
If so can they read and work with the output from LO?
Apparently Scribus can. In any case, anyone working with layout
software tends to expect to start with fairly plain text, perhaps
with only italics, bold, superscripts, subscripts, and so on, along
with footnotes, marked in the text. The clever stuff is then all
done in the layout software.
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