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Hi :)
There are many different sorts of Pdfs (fdf "and what-not" as Amiko says in interviews on Nasa 
tele).  Sometimes forms can be filled out using a proper Pdf reader such as Foxit (a good Pdf 
reader in Windows) but sometimes people try to make things difficult so that you are forced into 
using Adobe's Pdf reader, or use a work-around as you did with the frst one in Draw (sounded like a 
Pita though).  

One company sent me a Pdf form to fill in and then complained that i returned it as a Pdf!  It had 
been a bit ilke a multiple choice in that it had one question per line but instead of the choices 
it just left the rest of the line empty.  I pulled the form into Writer, set it as the background, 
added a 2 column table on top and adjusted the row's widths to fit the form and then wrote on my 
layer and saved as Pdf.  I was really chuffed because it's the first time i had managed anything 
like it with Pdfs but then got a complaint!  

I eventually saw the funny side of the hypocrasy but it took a cuppa tea or two.  I think i wrote 
back suggesting the form would be easier for people to fill in if they had 2 copies with the 2nd 
one being the original Doc format.  

From: Felmon Davis <>
Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 20:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Pdf import. Was: Fw: Wiki quick guide page - see if this is a 
good format. . .

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Girvin R. Herr wrote:

Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)

Although a lot of programs can now write Pdfs they seldom allow you to edit the text as freely 
as you would edit an Odt or Doc.  They do sometimes allow you to crop and rotate pages and do 
some fairly rough work like that. 

In the last 6 months or so, I had the task of completing two PDF forms that organizations sent 
me to fill out.  I decided to try the LO PDF import and use LO to fill out the forms.  In both 
cases, PDF import created a Draw file of pages conforming to each page of the PDF file.  With 
the first PDF form, I was not able to modify any text or objects in the form.  It was if the 
original format was a picture.  However, I was able to add text boxes over the "picture" and get 
the form filled out.  With the second PDF form, I was not only able to add text boxes as before, 
but I was also able to edit the original form text!  What was different between the two PDFs?  I 
haven't a clue.
So, it looks like PDF file editability in LO Draw depends on the particular PDF you are trying 
to edit.
Girvin Herr

some pdfs are nothing really but image files with some other code 'identifying' them as 'pdf'.

I notice one cannot see one's own posts; is it possible to switch this on?


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