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Hi :)
It is usually best to start a new question by starting a new email thread 
rather than replying to an existing thread and then just editing it.  
Forwarding an email and then copy&pasting the address back in also 
works but just "Reply to .." and then editing the subject-line doesn't.  

OpenOffice Extensions still tend to work on LibreOffice just as easily as they do 
on OpenOffice and vice-versa.  However i thought PDF import had been 
pulled into the main branch of LO?  Can you just open the Pdf in LO?  

Although a lot of programs can now write Pdfs they seldom allow you to edit the 
text as freely as you would edit an Odt or Doc.  They do sometimes allow you to crop and rotate 
pages and do some fairly rough work like that.  
Depending on which Operating System you are using and what type of 
editing you want to do people might have suggestions for other 
OpenSource programs that might suit you better.  I used to use Gimp a 
lot but it wouldn't let me write back as a Pdf (a double plus for my 
needs at that time).  When i need to save back as Pdf i use Draw or 
nowadays PdfShuffler (on a Gnu&Linux).  So, are you using Windows and do you need to save as Pdf or 
will an image format do?  
Also do you need to edit the text part of the document?  

When i create Pdfs i keep an original in Odt so that i can go back to that 
if i really need to edit anything.  I've found other people are usually 
quite willing to give me an editable format (usually Doc or DocX) if 
they have started by only providing a Pdf.  Not always but quite often.  

Regards from
Tom :)  

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: charles meyer <>
To: Tim Lungstrom <> 
Cc: "" <>; Tom Davies <>; 
Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:10
Subject: Re: Wiki quick guide page - see if this is a good format. . .


Nice work.

It's a very good start.

I would ask listers to e-mail you privately on this topic because I
think this conversation may be getting lost for some people who might
be willing to help even if it's just contributing solutions.

Speaking of Libre Writer...

Do you know if there is any Libre extension
 which allows one to import
a PDF into Libre Writer?

There is one for Open Office but when I perused the official LIbre Web
site I did not find a download for an extension or plug-in that would
allow that.

Maybe I missed it?

Thanks so much for all your help.


On 12/2/12, Tim Lungstrom <> wrote:

I started to fill in the "Working with Tools - Options Menus.

Would you look at the page and see if you think that formatting style
will work.

I am using bullets for a list of items in the section till I get that
bulleted item filled in.

The "box" character,
 before "Tips" and the other check-box items, was a
copy paste from Writer.  I hope it shows up with your browser.

It would be nice to fill in the items with descriptions on what
checking/unchecking those boxes do.

The image was from my Ubuntu system, but I wonder if I should do all my
screen-clip images from a Windows computer.  Do you think I should
reference the image by saying what version and OS the "clip" was from?
I will be redoing them for the 3.6.x version, if they appear different.

when uploading a image, where is the file name compared with?
It is specific for that Wiki page or the entire Wiki system?  I do not
want to have to keep changing the file name for the screen-clips.

Also, I know that the Wiki page can hold more information than the space
of the 6 or 8 pages a quick reference guide
 would have, but I do want to
consider how it might be presented on such a guide sheet[s].

Tom asked about how I did the "table-of-contents".  I answered him but I
think I missed his question.  If he meant the use of the "box with the
dot border", that was done by placing some spaced before each line.  If
you add a spacing between lines [not with the "new line" character],
then each block of lines would have their own bordered box.

Now, I have to figure out how the informational text for each "check
box" items will be shown as part of that "sub section" of the page and
not a new item to be looked at. I replaced the "*" character, after I
used the bullet list option for the text, with the ? [box character
shown here, hopefully] That way the text was still properly indented for
the page.  I wonder if I can
 indent at another level - i.e. indent a
text inside an indented text.

But this is a start.

What would be the best format for the "Supported Document file formats"
and is there a better name for that section?  Should I list all of the
formats in alpha order and then have a column for load/save information
- maybe in a table format?  Or should it be listed in some other order.

I was thinking that I would work on that part of the page, at this
point, to fill in another section with itemized information.

is there someone else that wanted to participate in this project, or at
least wants to "advise" me/us on its look?  Any idea on who might want
to help fill in the sections?  Also, should I post on the lists to email
me offline with "solutions" or ideas on subsections
 needed for things
like "Formatting the Page" and "Formatting the Text"? This Wiki page
needs to be a "outline" and quick reference instead of a "guide book".

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