Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?

What a discussion has been started. Great!

As for doing revers engineering on binary files, I know how difficult it is. However, it is not 
impossible. Should the great devs of AOO and LibO be enabled to join forces, there is a tremendous 
know-how and manpower available. I just hope that people in both organizations start thinking about 
joining forces and act ASAP.

EU and the law suit is definitely something which can help us.

This reminds me to discussions on highest management level in a multinational company of some 8000 - 
10000 employees world wide. Management was "not very happy" with the way MS used their power.

This means that also larger corporations could switch to a highly bug free  LibO. As for new 
features of MSO and an productivity increase in large corporation it is actually close to zero. The 
introduction of ribbons caused a huge productivity loss in large corporations and cost a lot of 
money for ribbon training. Such a switch could also be accelerated by MS new policy to offer their 
products on subscription base. Huge regular bills will be eye-catchers...

I keep fingers crossed and will contribute when I can do so.


On 2012-11-19 22:46, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> I contribute to LibreOffice by working on the North American Community DVD Project in creating 
> English distribution DVDs.  Also I have created the largest [so I have been told] spell checking 
> dictionaries for American English, British English, and Canadian English.  Also, I try to help 
> people out on some of the lists.
>
> There is a project that is getting started, by some of the users, to create a 4 page cheat sheet 
> to help new users learn and use LibreOffice.  That is in the initial "idea" stage and needs help 
> to get it going.
>
> So there are options out there than could use some people who do not have any programming skills, 
> or marketing skills.  If you have the ability to explain how things are done in LibreOffice and 
> get that down on paper, you are needed.  I know that the documentation people are looking for 
> people to do various things.  Heck, if you can go to the NA-DVD project and help make it better, I 
> would be most grateful.
>
> Tim L.
> webmaster@libreoffice-na.us
> http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/install.html
>
>
> On 11/19/2012 08:34 AM, Carl Paulsen wrote:
> > Thanks, Regina.  I know there are other ways to contribute, but I don't necessarily know what 
> > they are. Templates is one way, but the real issue I see is going from MSO to LO/OO.  We can't 
> > control the other end.
> >
> > So is there a simple list of SPECIFIC ways users can contribute (templates is a good example) 
> > that is easily found?  I've seen some general lists of how to contribute, but I haven't searched 
> > much for more specifics.  In any case it should probably be front and center on the website 
> > (again, not the develop, donate $$, etc. generic list, but more specifics).
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > On 11/19/12 8:09 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Carl Paulsen schrieb:
> > > > In practical use, I would NOT say LO (or OOo) has a "high" file
> > > > compatibility with MS Office.  Virtually every file I receive from MS
> > > > Office users has some kind of problem (bullet lists almost NEVER convert
> > > > correctly, at least from MSO to LO).  I'm only an occasional Office
> > > > suite user so I put up with it (plus I'm on a Mac), but I've never been
> > > > able to convince others to use LO for this reason alone. And I mostly
> > > > work with non-profits who, for several reasons, should be avid LO users.
> > > >
> > > > I also realize MSO, with it's market share, stands only to gain from
> > > > keeping it's formatting a moving target.  With that in mind, I just
> > > > can't imagine how a project like LO could hope to keep up and make inroads.
> > > >
> > > > Wish I could help with making it work better, but I know nothing about
> > > > contributing to development.
> > >
> > > You do not need to be a developer to help. One idea for interoperability I heard on LibOCon, is 
> > > to make templates, that can be converted nicely. So if you have access to MSO, then examine, 
> > > what kind of things are dangerous for converting and what kind of things convert without 
> > > problems. Make a Wiki site with your observations and create good templates based on this 
> > > rationale.
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > > Regina


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