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I would say the code is "getting better". I've only been on the project a
few months so I can't say how much progress we've made but I know that we
still have a build time of 4+ hours which says a lot. The code is still a
bit tricky, not enough comments left by previous developers, etc...

Also, I would argue that "our project" (meaning LibO, we don't use LO ;) ),
is quite small still. We have a very small team of developers who routinely
(>1 patch per week) contribute, a slightly bigger team that submits at
least one patch a month, and then a couple hundred that have submitted 1 or
2 patches in the course of several months (this includes myself ). We could
probably double our number of developers doing 1 patch or so a month and
still be in need for quite a few more.


On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Tom Davies <> wrote:

Hi :)
Just one thing.  LO is not particularly small and it's definitely not
new.  The original code was called Star Office and was developed around a
decade or so ago.  After a couple of years Sun took it on and called it and then TDF took the code and called it LibreOffice.  So
there are probably chunks of the code and ways of doing things that date
back to the last century!  Hence why you still see references to "soffice"
if you look in your task-manager or systems processes.

Now that a lot of the old irrelevant comments and stuff have been almost
cleaned out (allegedly) it might be possible to focus more on streamlining
and using more modern approaches in some areas.  It should definitely be
easier to find your way around the code and i think that is going to have
some big impacts on the effectiveness of any work done by the devs.  The
Pita stuff is nearly done.  Time for some fun!  (or have i got it wrong
Regards from
Tom :)

*From:* Joel Madero <>
*Sent:* Friday, 19 October 2012, 14:53

*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ...

On 10/18/2012 11:11 PM, rost52 wrote:
This is a very interesting information. I am not really surprised by the
ration indicated here. I exepcte finding the cause of a bug takes much more
time than final fix. I am grateful to the dev because I know myself how
difficult it is to find a bug in a complicated SW.

Question: What means:
- bot lists
In IRC (chat client) we have automatic robots that routinely (ten's of
times a day) say what patches have been submitted to gerrit (the service we
use to keep our code). Every time a patch is submitted the robot (bot)
spits out an automated message saying that a person (with a name) has
submitted a patch and explains what that patch does.

FDO = free desktop . org (f d o). Ans is where you can report bugs
pertaining to the libreoffice project. If you want to see a list of
confirmed bugs look here -- you'll see immediately how overwhelmed a small
project can get:

That is 3,956 bugs and climbing (there are an additional 1,200 or so that
are reported but not confirmed yet...the QA team confirms the bugs so
developers can focus on coding)


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