Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

       Just testing;
          and find this may be the silliest way of setting a list I've seen.

       If someone cannot take the minute time to check the 'to' 'cc' 'bcc'
then the 'subject' line, then are they smart enough to operate a machine
;-)
          or to handle any secure documents  ;-)

       Just curiously wondering - by the way, I assume you, Florian, will
receive 2 copies of this;
          when you tire of receiving duplicate messages, maybe you'll
return this list to resemble other lists  ;-)



On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Florian Effenberger <
floeff@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

Hello,
> this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed
> (so-called "Reply to mangling" has been disabled).
>
> So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other
> words, with any e-mail client, replies to e-mails on the list were
> automatically sent directly to the list.
>
> In the past, this lead to two major problems:
>
> 1. Several times, people have sent direct replies to the public list,
> where deleting them is nearly impossible. I remember at least one case
> where confidential information has been sent out that caused lots of
> worries for the sender and his employer. This happened because people hit
> "reply" and thought it would reply to the sender only.
>
> 2. I have heard complaints in the past from people, stating that working
> with the non-developer lists of LibreOffice is a pain for them, because of
> reply-to mangling, resulting in a lack of communication. This also led to
> the fact that numerous tasks were done by the same people, who needed to
> spend more and more time, instead of sharing the work burden with others.
> While I do not fully believe this argument, there's just one way to find
> out...
>
> Therefore, I have applied a change:
>
> Replies to e-mails from the list now only go to the original sender. You
> either need to use the "reply to all" feature of your e-mail program, or -
> preferably - the "reply to list"/"reply to group" feature, which will
> direct replies directly to the list.
>
> This is common practice on most mailing lists, and even the default
> setting for our mailing list software, so we did not re-invent the wheel
> here. Those seeking for details should have a look at
> http://www.unicom.com/pw/**reply-to-harmful.html<http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html>
>
> I know we had numerous discussions on this topic in the past, but the
> outcome was that roughly 50% were for this change, and 50% refused it, so I
> am really sitting between two chairs here, for which I beg for your
> understanding. On the one hand, those complaining the lists are unusable
> with reply-to mangling, on the other hand, those complaining the lists are
> unusable without reply-to mangling. Unfortunately, combining those two,
> even on a per-recipient basis, is not possible, so they are mutually
> exclusive to each other.
>
> In order to find out the real impact, I simply changed the setting, and
> again, I beg for your understanding.
>
> Do not worry: The mailing lists are for the community, so it's the
> community deciding how they should work. What I'd like to ask all of you is
> to try out for a few days if that change is good for each list or not.
> Should we find out it is more harmful than it helps, I will immediately
> switch back to the old behaviour.
>
> Sorry for this short notice, and I beg for your understanding that I'm
> somehow sitting between two chairs here.
>
> Florian

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted