Re: [libreoffice-users] pdf creation issue on a single file?

Windows users can get free PDF printer drivers, like doPDF.  Linux users 
can use other options like CUPS-PDF.  What are you using to print your 
files to PDF with?

We what to encourage Windows users, and to tell them they are stupid to 
use it.  I know of many people who cannot use Linux due to software 
needs that will not run with WINE.  I must keep a Windows system for 
both hardware and software needs.  I prefer Ubuntu, but I know that most 
people will not switch to Linux no matter what we tell them.

We need to get more and more Windows users to get away from MSO and get 
them to look into FOSS as a viable option for their software needs.

For most users, Windows is a viable option over Linux.  As long as they 
feel comfortable with it.

I know we had a thread before about not telling people that my/your OS 
is better than someone else's.  Every user has their own needs and own 
ideas of what OS is better for THEM.

Right now we want to help users to see that LO is right for them, no 
matter which OS they use.  I have it on 2 version of Windows and 2 
versions of Ubuntu.  We need to help users with their issues and not 
"joke" that there is something funny with the OS they are using.  I do 
not find it to be funny.

If a user is having problems with the Exporting/Printing to PDF that is 
a part of LO, then I would say that they need to install a PDF printer 
options - doPDF for Windows and some option depending on the version of 
Linux they use.  Then test the PDF output with one of those PDF 
printers.  If they have the same issue, then it is not the Exporting to 
PDF that is the issue.  A different poster to this thread has come up 
with an option for the user to test.  I am not a Calc person, so I look 
at the Exporting/Printing part of the issue and let some one else take 
on the possibility of it is something to do with the setup of the file 
itself and not the printing part of it.

BUT
whatever we do, we should not make fun of the user, his/her OS, the 
system used, or even state it is all due to them using an older version 
of LO.  Not all of us have the money to buy a better system, have access 
to Broadband so they can download a newer version every time one comes 
out.  No everyone will feel comfortable to use Linux for their system, 
or can change their OS due to some requirement that they have no control 
over.  Business users may not own their systems and may have a difficult 
time even to be allowed to use LO instead of MSO.

To be honest, we need to accept that we have a lot of Windows users that 
have the option to use MSO and we need to prove to them that LO is a 
viable option to use instead of buying another version of MSO.  LO is 
not the default for most Linux versions. MSO is the package most Windows 
user know as their only office package option.  We need to get the word 
out there to these Windows users that LO is there and we want them to 
try it.  We do not want them to think we are stuck-up egg-headed Linux 
users that do not accept that there is anything wrong with them using 
Windows.   I prefer to use Ubuntu, but I do not think most Windows users 
will be able to switch.  I know of some Linux users who had to make one 
of their system run Windows due to the fact that need to use a certain 
type of software and Linux does not have the software they need.  One 
young fellow needs some really good post-production video editing 
software.  He prefers Linux for everything, but he just cannot find the 
software he needs for Linux.

So
LO runs on many different OSs.  Then be a support to all of those 
different OS users for LO and not blame anything on their choice of OS.  
IF we do, then we might as well start telling people that their version 
of Linux is laughable over our version of Linux. Now where would you 
think that would get us?  Nothing but trouble and in-fighting.


On 07/28/2012 11:40 AM, Lynne Stevens wrote:
> *Don't you have the ability to print to a PDF file ?  Linux gives me 
> the choice to print the file or print to a PDF file and asks where to 
> save it and a name for it . . You must be a windows user LOL ! I 
> really feel sorry for windows users ROFLMAO
>
> On 07/28/2012 06:42 AM, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an rainfall.ods document that has 24 tabs. Two of the tabs 
> > contain figures and the balance contain graphs of the figures.
> >
> > I recently experienced a problem, it would seem after my last tab 
> > addition, that prevents me from creating a PDF file of the selected 
> > sheets(12).
> >
> > The PDF export works fine on other files regarding `Export as PDF', 
> > why not on this file?
> >
> > I was using LibreOffice 3.3 and have since updated to LibreOffice 3.4.5
> > OOO340m1 (Build:1505). Unfortunately the newer version is unable to 
> > `Export as PDF' on the selected TABS either!!
> >
> > What could be wrong? There are no special characters in the sheet 
> > names bar possibly a space.
> >
> > I will gladly send this file to anyone who can assist as I need to 
> > create and post to a public user mailing list a PDF at the end of the 
> > month.
> >
> > Help is much appreciated
> > Hylton


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