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Hi :)
I think the distance between Australia and New Zealand is surprisingly large.  Nothing like as 
close as i keep thinking it is.  

The Netherlands and Sweden are very atypical of European countries.  I think they have an extremely 
high tax-rate but that gets put into very high visibility projects instead of being sunk into 
black-holes such as "defence" or things that only the rich and famous or just people in the capital 
get to use.  

Regard from
Tom :)  

--- On Tue, 24/7/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <> wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <>
Subject: Re: New Zealand connection, was Fw: Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD
Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 15:35

On 07/24/2012 10:02 AM, James Knott wrote:
webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
That underwater cable network is used for both phone and Internet communication, since phone 
systems not seem to be converted to digital to go through the cables to give more "lines" of 
communication between countries


Are analog trunks still in use anywhere?  The phone system has been digital for many years, long 
before there was an Internet. It'd have to be an extremely old cable to require analog trunks. 
Anything running over fibre would most certainly be digital.

They still have the cables and they are used.  Mostly they are used as digital trunk lines, but not 
every one has been converted do to their age.  The expense of laying a new fiber cable across a 
large body of ocean/sea is something that slows up the process of many parts of the world getting 
the better/faster connections.  The poorer the country, or the less number of potential users of 
the service, the longer it will take for the giant communication companies to spend the type of 
money needed to give these users the type of service many of us enjoy.  Europe has a better 
broadband system than most of the USA does.  I saw a program for places like the Netherlands and 
other European countries where they have a very large section of their country with fiber to the 
home and they have many different companies to choose from for broadband.  With that large 
competition for the broadband market, their Internet prices for 50 MB/s bandwidth is lower than my
 area of the USA for a 5 to 10 MB/s access.  We have just two options.  Cable modem service or a 
DSL service.  We pay $50+ a month for either.  On some science TV programming, they showed services 
for as little as $15 a month for the same services.  It all comes down to how good is their trunk 
system and how the marketing controls over those trunk lines are regulated.   For countries like 
New Zealand, they have to rely on a limited trunk cable on the ocean floor.  I would wonder if it 
was possible to run a trunk line from their nation to Australia.  Would it give them more access, 
or is Australia using the same trunk cable system as well.

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