Re: [libreoffice-users] Migrating from Windows; take it slow

The real problem for many people is the hardware and software needs.

I still have some USB hardware that does not work on Linux.  No working 
drivers.

Then there is the problem of having to use certain software, for work or 
pleasure, that you either cannot find a good Linux alternative or you 
MUST use.  There is the option of WINE, but some software seems not to 
want to work under that.  Personally, I have never gotten WINE to work 
for me, but that is just me.

I made a personal choice and used Ubuntu when I bought my last "default" 
desktop.  I had to adjust to some of the software though.  I still have 
the Windows laptops [single or dual boot] to deal with the need Windows 
software.  My Epson printer prints on DVD media, but I have not found 
any replacement for its Windows software to do that work.  There is a 
graphic program that I bought for Windows that works much easier that 
GIMP, so if I have trouble with an image/graphics, I need to work on it 
with that Windows software.  BUT, most most of the work I do, Ubuntu and 
the free software for it works for me.

So, even though I use Ubuntu as my default system, I still need to keep 
Windows around for those things that I cannot find drivers and software 
version for in Linux.

Even version of Linux differ.
The scanning part of my Epson printer does not work at all with Ubuntu 
10.04, but will work on 12.04.  I updated the software and drivers I use 
for it on my 10.04 system, but still not luck. Something in 12.04 makes 
it work that I seem not to be able to get with 10.04.



On 07/24/2012 08:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Virtualisation is good but if it's a question of drivers for a particular piece of hardware then it 
> might not work.  It might, but it if the underlaying OS can't see it then i don't see how the 
> virtual machine that is sitting on top of that OS is supposed to see it.
>
> It is possible to use emulators or even better is WINE (stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator") but 
> that is a lot more sophisticated and hence slightly harder to set-up initially for some programs.
>
> The worst way around is to have a Gnu&Linux in a virtual machine on Windows because then the stability 
> of the unix-based systems is sitting on top of the flakiness of Windows so you end-up adding the worst of 
> each OS.  A dual-boot means each is directly on bare metal so it gives a fair comparison.  Windows inside a 
> virtual machine inside Gnu&Linux sounds like it's going to be ver stable too.
>
> Ubuntu and Puppy and possibly a few others have a magic way of installing inside Windows.  It avoids 1 of the layers 
> between bare-metal and the OS because it avoids the virtual machine bit.  The Ubuntu magic way is called the 
> "Wubi".  Again you are adding the worst of each OS and in addition the "drives" are really 
> compressed files but it's fast and easy to install and many people keep using such things for years with no problems.  
> Obviously it's not made by Microsoft and so every once in a while someone has troubles with Windows trying to reject it 
> but that is fairly rare.  We used to get about 1 question per month that was specifically about the Wubi and solved by 
> moving to a dual-boot.
>
>
> So, there are tons of different ways of avoiding wiping Windows and that seems to be the best way 
> to make the migration much more gentle and less stressful.  Throwing yourself to the lions is the 
> fastest way to learn to deal with lions (or die) but there is no real need to create so much stress.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Tue, 24/7/12, Simon Cropper <simoncropper@fossworkflowguides.com> wrote:
>
> From: Simon Cropper <simoncropper@fossworkflowguides.com>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Migrating from Windows; take it slow
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 11:05
>
> On 24/07/12 19:36, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:41:59 -0400 webmaster-Kracked_P_P
> > <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> > > Anyone who really wants to learn how to use Linux as a replacement
> > > for Windows, try dual booting a system if you do not have a spare one
> > > to try Linux with as its only OS.
> >
> > G'day.
> >
> >
> > The other option for the odd trip back to windows is virtualisation.
> > Mostly, you can tell the system to let windows use a device as if you
> > had booted into windows
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Keith Bainbridge
> > PO Box 324
> > BELMONT Vic 3216 Australia
> >     +61 (0)408 522 706
> >
> > keith.bainbridge.3216@gmail.com
> Visualization also has the added benefit of a shared clipboard and being
> able to work on the same data at the same time (well nearly).


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