Re: apols Re: [libreoffice-users] "English" dictionary extension

As one of those who is enjoying the benefits of all the work you put 
into these dictionaries, THANK YOU.!!!

Jerry

At 01:22 PM 6/23/2012, you wrote:
>  So, clearly there are a lot of people out there quietly enjoying 
> using your works.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Sat, 23/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
>
> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] "English" dictionary extension
> To: "LibreO - Users Global" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> Date: Saturday, 23 June, 2012, 19:53
>
>
> With all the "issues" about my version of a British word list 
> dictionary, I decided to get out of my sick bed and do something 
> that would make the same people more angry at me.
>
> If you do not want to use my spelling word dictionaries, you do not 
> need to. Use someone else's.  I just thought I could help LO in my 
> own little way.  If all people who want to help is made to feel like 
> I have over my work on my versions of a spelling extension, then I 
> would wonder why people would want to help make LO better. So, for 
> those who do not like my work, do not use it.
>
> NOW - what I did. . . .
>
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>
> http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-english-dictionary-790k-word-list.oxt
>
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>
> I took all three 638K word lists - American, British, and Canadian - 
> and compared them.  As far as I could tell, there were less than 100 
> words that were not in at least two out of the three lists.  I could 
> be wrong, but that is what I came up with.
>
> Then I added lists of medical and chemical words to the large word 
> list to make it a total of 790,673 words.  I planned to add the 
> medical and chemical words at a later date, but I did so now 
> instead.  I still have more words to add, but I will have to wait to 
> rebuild that list of new words [since I deleted my work when I was 
> sick last year and was switching drives for storage of these working files].
>
> I will not tell you where I got these words from, but as far as I 
> will tell you ALL of the words came from "GNU - General Public 
> License" sources or equivalent.
>
> If you choose to search for word lists you will find the ones I have 
> found and merged to create the "master" word lists I use for the 
> creation three versions of the English Language spelling 
> dictionaries.  Everything I did can be done by anyone who would want to do so.
>
> --------------
>
> AS for spellings that are not matching everyone's preferred 
> spelling, that is easy . . . .
>
>
> Languages Evolve and even in the same country people can spell a 
> word differently and still be correct.
>
>
> If you go to
>
> http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/spanish-dictionaries
>
> and look, you will find Spanish dictionaries for various 
> regions.  You want to argue with them that they are not spelling 
> their words correctly?  No, the spellings of words evolve and can be 
> used in each variation.  Do I tell people that "colour" or "menue" 
> are not the correct spellings of these words, since they are not the 
> spellings I use?  They should be "color" and "menu" according to my 
> email client, BUT both ways are spelled correctly if you look at 
> resource that does not say this is the preferred spelling so any 
> other correct spellings are not to be used anymore.  The people in 
> my building who saw "menue" spelled this way could not tell me that 
> is was not correct, when it is not the "most preferred" spelling method.
>
> Look at the French.  As far as I was told, they have revised their 
> spellings of some words and now teach this new spelling method in 
> their schools.  But, the old ways are still going to be out there in 
> books and other printed documents.  Look at what Oxford English is 
> vs. British English.  "They" are changing the way you spell many 
> common words [my opinion for common words and spelling] but if the 
> public do not want to use the newest version of the words, then who 
> will force them?  If the public think it is not a good idea to use 
> the newest ways to spell the words, then is the public wrong or the 
> people who thought up the new ways of spelling of the words?  Look 
> into the past of the "English" language.  It has not been around for 
> 2000 years, 1000 years, or even 500.  The "English" language grew 
> out of communities coming in contact with each other and sharing 
> their words.  These groups of larger communities share with others 
> and slowly a new
>  language grows out of the older ones.  ALSO smaller communities 
> form and over time the words they use, and their spelling of those 
> words, will change.  As far as my English professors understands, 
> this will always happen.  Language Evolves.
>
> How many "English" words actually came from words in the French and 
> German regions of Europe?   Language shares words and the use can 
> become part of their "communal" language.
>
> You can tell me I am wrong, and I can say that you are.  We are both 
> neither right or wrong.  The lady who was born and raised 200 miles 
> south of me who spells "menue/menu" her way is not wrong, but she 
> grew up in a different sub-community in the USA than I did.  There 
> were more of one ethnic group that moved into her region of the 
> country than did in mine.  My father was raised on a different 
> region than my mother.  We all were taught how to speak in areas of 
> different ethnic diversity.  Our words we used were different for 
> some common things, AND so was some of the ways that those words 
> were spelled.  The language evolved in these communities and as each 
> community member moved to other communities, the words [and 
> spelling] spread to other communities, through their use and their 
> children's use.
>
> <http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-english-dictionary-790k-word-list.oxt>Language 
> evolves.
>
> NO one sub-group can force another to use the new ways.  If they are 
> not used by enough people, then those new ways are given up.
>
> The same goes with spelling of the words you use.  Over the past 200 
> many ways of spelling words have changed and were used by enough 
> people that those ways became preferred over the older ways, but 
> those older ways are rarely, if ever, removed from the written 
> language.  They are just not used as much as they once were.
>
>
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