Re: [libreoffice-users] emacs mode?

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
writes:

> On 01/29/2012 03:16 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

> "emacs" seems to me that it is used for mainframe programming editors,
> not word processors.

You can do lots of things with emacs. It´s not at all limited to the
programming of mainframes.

> Well I got spoiled after all those years on a dumb terminal or typing
> punch cards.  I prefer a "window" environment like GNOME2 gives you
> over Terminal use that works a lot like what I had to do with the
> mainframes I worked on.

Everyone their own :) I´m using the combination of both by running the
programs I want in a "window environment". It´s just easier this way
than running them on a console and switching over to the GUI when
needed.

You can have emacs in a terminal or with its own frames (i. e. windows)
or both. You might try, though I guess you won´t like it.

> So the question is what you are doing for the typing?

For almost all the typing I do, I´m far better off with a text editor
than with an office package like LO. If it really comes to "WYSIWYG", I
wish I had a decent DTP program rather than only LO --- and Scribus
doesn´t cut it because you can´t reasonably place objects on a page in
such a way that they are aligned.

I don´t really have need/use for an office package like LO other than
one or the other occasional "odd" thing like a spreadsheet or a text
that needs the kind of formatting easily done with its writer --- and
the database part of LO is, unfortunately, worlds behind of what MS
Access offered years ago.

> I know that if you have had years worth of finger-memory for using the
> keyboard shortcuts, that is is hard to get use to using the mouse/menu
> option and the word processor's internal shortcuts

Using a mouse or a menu is an interruption to me unless I´m actually
doing something "graphically". I´m not writing with a mouse or a
menu. I´m not drawing pictures with the keyboard. I´m not so much
visually orientated that I would memorise loads of icons, and I´m not
using them because I never know what they mean: This makes these icon
bars so many GUI applications have a total waste of screen space, and
it´s usually not easy to just turn them off. Using a GUI can be rather
straining on me because everything looks the same and it´s very
difficult to figure out what is what --- it´s hard to explain if you
don´t experience it yourself.

There are just many things that can be done easier and/or more
efficiently with the keyboard and another many things that can be done
easier and/or more efficient with a GUI.

> like Ctrl-Alt-f to open the Find/Replace option[s] or Ctrl-A for
> select all.  I do not remember these shortcuts much.  Each package
> seems to have their own definations beyond Ctrl-x, -c, and -v.  Some
> change Ctrl-c and -z as well.

Yeah, indeed. That´s another thing that makes these GUI applications so
awkward to use: You are forced to use the mouse, and for many things, I
don´t like that because it´s so interrupting, slows everything down and
makes it more difficult and straining.

And LO still isn´t advanced enough that you can have scroll bars on the
left side where they belong and not on the right side, and copy and
paste doesn´t work right. Emacs and xterm and other apps do it just fine
...

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