RE: [libreoffice-users] French/English date

Hi :)
True.  The reason i suggested an Extension is because 
1.  someone said they already had some C# coding to do at least part of this
2.  i think it's faster than getting something into the main branch and dealing with all the 
politics and systems of another group (ie the devs group)
3.  Once something is tested as an Extension it seems that it's a lot easier to pull it into the 
main branch

We do need more programmers/devs and doing an Extension might help someone work their way into that 
group.  I think the devs are quite a welcoming bunch and have things such as "Easy Hacks" and a 
mentoring system to help people learn how to code for LibreOffice (and in general too).  We already 
have a lot of programmers but there is always room for more.  

We are usually mostly short of people in the documentation group and it's documentation that is 
usually the problem with most OpenSource products but by sheer coincidence quite a few new people 
have just recently joined so we can look forward to guides for the 3.4.x branch arriving within the 
next few weeks.

Guides for the 3.3.x branch are at
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
along with 3rd party documentation.  The French team have an excellent FAQ which a couple of people 
are trying to translate into English although that is where we are really short of people.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 1/12/11, Bruce Carlson <bruce@grahamgroup.com.au> wrote:

From: Bruce Carlson <bruce@grahamgroup.com.au>
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] French/English date
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 11:31

Hi,

In reply to Julius.
I understand your explanation and it seems to me that what you are asking for is a permanent 
correction or addition to an existing function in the French localisation and I'd imagine that that 
would not be too difficult to do. Although I have no real idea of how the current formats are coded 
but I appreciate the frustration people using the French localisations must feel.

However your original post on this subject has sparked much interest and has led to other possible 
adaptations of your original request such as:-

1.    multi language ordinal functions. Imagine being able to select a range of cells in calc and 
setting the format to "ordinal" for any number value.
2 .    expanded functionality in creating custom number and date formats including the use of 
ordinals to allow for people to create their own formats from local custom not only national 
language.
3.    and one I have introduced and that is being able to save custom formats with a friendly name 
that can be, once saved, selected from the existing format list as and when required.

You may also be correct in these ideas not being solved by an extension but by actually modifying 
the LO code itself, that is, embedded directly into LO may be a better solution.

However please don't think that these expansions of your original post detract in any way from the 
importance of your original post because what you have brought to everyone's attention is the need 
to correct an existing flaw, not to introduce a new function, although in order to do what you have 
asked does require the creation of some new functions and it is these new functions that has 
sparked everyone's imagination as to other possible uses .

Bruce Carlson


> -----Original Message-----
> From: julius.becker@gmail.com [mailto:julius.becker@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Julius Becker
> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 9:23 PM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] French/English date
>
> Hi at all,
>
> creating an extension might be a solution, but in my opinion, it isn't a good
> one.
>
> In French dates like "1er d cembre 2011", the ordinal number for the first day
> of a month isn't an option, it's obligatory. You cannot say
> "1 d cembre 2011" like LO does. So, LO should offer the possibility for ordinal
> numbers without a special extension.
>
> The same for English dates. In classes of students who learn English as a
> foreign language, it would be very useful to have a long form of the English
> date on worksheets, including "st", "nd", "rd" and "th".
> Doug is right that one could simply _write_ and copy the date, but in my
> opinion, "fields" are there to ease the work.
>
> Since "DDDDD" could mean in French 1er, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ..., it could be
> introduced even for English as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, ...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julius
>
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