RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx file, should I report a bug?

Bruce Carlson wrote:
> Sending an .xls version and asking the person on the other end to keep 
> the document in that format is a valid point and can be substantiated 
> by the fact that even different versions of MSO have trouble reading 
> each other's version of .xlsx formats. Try swapping an .xlsx document 
> with complex formulae between office 2003 and office 2010. Sometimes it
might work.
> Trying to coerce or force others into using international standards 
> instead of MS standards will have a negative effect in the acceptance 
> of these international standards.
>
> For increasing the awareness and take up of LO in business, the best 
> results I've had is by pointing out the extra functionality of LO that 
> can't be provided by MSO, such as the ability to load and modify and 
> re-save .pdf documents. This has been a big selling point in my 
> organisation with around twenty new users this year already. (only 380 
> users to go) The biggest obstacle I have in promoting LO is younger IT 
> staff who tried Open Office several years ago during their uni days 
> and have been scared off from trying later versions by repeated and 
> continuing MS propaganda.
>
> I find the same attitude towards GIMP. Today I had our Helpdesk 
> manager call GIMP unusable rubbish. I asked him what his preferred 
> Microsoft alternative was and when did he last try GIMP. No answer, 
> was the stern reply. :-)
>
> (e-letter's use of the $ sign in M$ is quite amusing and to the 
> point.)
>
> cheers,
>
> Bruce Carlson

At0mic wrote

> If I know I'm going to be working with older versions of Office I will use
the 2003 format for things, however the newer version of the format not only
produces smaller file sizes but is extractable (2007+ formats are >basically
.zip files which can be useful at times). In practice I can't comment much
on Excel since I haven't used it much myself, but when I was working as IT
support for a number of schools we'd sometimes >encounter a mix of 2003/2007
installations (the 2003 ones with the compatibility pack for 2007 formats),
and no-one complained.

> I must admit though I've never been aware of the fact you can actually EDIT
PDFs in LibreOffice. That's a damn nice feature that I'm sure to remember
now, thanks! Maybe it needs to be marketed more that this >feature even
exists, since there aren't many free alternatives that work quite as well
for editing PDFs.

> As for the GIMP, it's finally managed to replace my pirated version of
Photoshop the moment version 2.7.3 was released (the version which now has
stable single-window mode). Things are looking up.


Bruce Carlson replied

Hi At0mic,

Not wanting to keep this thread over active but with respect to LO opening
and editing and resaving  .pdf files, in my job I receive a lot of files in
.pdf format. 
It is my job to make sure these are correct before collating and sending up
to senior management. 
Many times I find I have to open and edit these .pdf's to correct silly
mistakes and resave as .pdf before sending to management.
Also with LO I can open and merge .pdfs with extreme ease. In fact it has
made my job so much easier that I almost feel guilty about it. :-)

I now have several staff creating these files in LO impress or writer or
calc and converting them to .pdf for transmission.

Very clever.

Try it. I hope you'll be as impressed as I am.

Since the release of LO 3.3.3 my job has become much easier and I have not
had one problem opening and editing a .pdf up to now.

The LO release notes claimed that LO could do this seamlessly and so far
that claim still stands for me.

The extractable (.zip) functionality of MSO 2010 is useful but remember LO
had this function before MSO and still does and is another valid marketing
point in my opinion.

One point we must always remember in business is the importance of
communication. We should always try to communicate to others in a language
and format that the receiver is capable of 

Oh! and please don't get too upset with folks who have an over passionate
view of the world.
I know they end up doing themselves more damage than good but hopefully they
will eventually learn the error of their ways. :-)

Cheers From 

Bruce.

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