[libreoffice-users] Re: ODF 1.2 Approval and Extensions (was RE: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx f...)

On 09/08/2011 05:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Wow, that's great information Gary!  
>
> Thanks.  So there is no reason to choose 1.2 (extended) unless one is using the Draw and Impress 
> commenting provision.  And losing the comments in other products that don't recognize the 
> extension is benign.
>
> It would be great to test that.
>
>  - Dennis

I'll see if I can get time to do some tests tomorrow. However, my guess
is that we'll need to post on the dev list to get further details.


Note: I've not rewrapped your response this time. You might want to look
into configuring Outlook to wrap your lines at 76 or 80 characters. Not
sure about the newer versions, but Outlook 2002 allows you to configure
this via: Tools|Options|Mail Format|Intenet Format (untick HTML of
course)|Plain text options: Automatically wrap at xx characters (76 is
the default).

Leaving the tailings in place...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NoOp [mailto:glgxg@sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:16
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: ODF 1.2 Approval and Extensions (was RE: Calc corrupted an Excel 
> xlsx f...)
>
> On 09/08/2011 02:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> > [Thanks Cor, I caught this one on time. New thread - this is not
> > about the original users problem at all.]
> >
> > I have no idea what it means to be using 1.2 extended (other than it
> > being the recommended default).
>
> Not sure if this is helpful as I know little-to-nothing about the
> subject, but from the help file (lifted directly from OOo (it's the same
> in OOo-Dev):
>
> <quote>
> ODF format version
> OpenOffice.org 3 and StarOffice 9 introduce new features which have to
> be saved using the OpenDocument format (ODF) version 1.2. The prior
> versions of OpenOffice.org 2 and StarOffice 8 support the file formats
> ODF 1.0/1.1. Those prior file formats cannot store all new features of
> the new software.
> Current versions can open documents in ODF formats 1.0/1.1 and 1.2.
> When you save a document, you can select whether to save the document in
> the format ODF 1.2, ODF 1.2 (Extended), or in the prior format ODF 1.0/1.1.
>
> Currently, the ODF 1.2 (Extended) format enables files of Draw and
> Impress to contain comments. Those comments can be inserted by Insert -
> Comment in the latest software version. The comments get lost when
> loading files into prior software versions that were saved by the latest
> software version.
>
> Some companies or organizations may require ODF documents in the ODF
> 1.0/1.1 format. You can select that format to save in the listbox. This
> older format cannot store all new features, so the new format ODF 1.2
> (Extended) is recommended where possible.
> </quote>
>
> Looks like it started here:
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/rc1.html#general_odf
> and Cor asked about it here:
> <http://openoffice.org/projects/framework/lists/dev/archive/2010-01/message/16>
>
> > There is no way to identify an ODF document as "1.2 extended".
> > There's also no way to tell as an user whether a document written
> > with that option set *actually* depends on a LibreOffice extension or
> > not.  Using 1.1 as my output format, or using 1.2 as my output format
> > (not extended), I have never received a warning that my document uses
> > features that are not supported by the target format.  I don't know
> > if that is because I have not done anything to require an extension
> > or because I am not being told.
>
> I guess that the only way you might know is to try 'Commenting' in Draw
> and/or Impress. Or examining the xml.
>
> Way too many pages in http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/
> ...



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