RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: ODF 1.2 Approval and Extensions (was RE: Calc corrupted an Excel xlsx f...)

Wow, that's great information Gary!  

Thanks.  So there is no reason to choose 1.2 (extended) unless one is using the Draw and Impress 
commenting provision.  And losing the comments in other products that don't recognize the extension 
is benign.

It would be great to test that.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: NoOp [mailto:glgxg@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:16
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: ODF 1.2 Approval and Extensions (was RE: Calc corrupted an Excel 
xlsx f...)

On 09/08/2011 02:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> [Thanks Cor, I caught this one on time. New thread - this is not
> about the original users problem at all.]
>
> I have no idea what it means to be using 1.2 extended (other than it
> being the recommended default).

Not sure if this is helpful as I know little-to-nothing about the
subject, but from the help file (lifted directly from OOo (it's the same
in OOo-Dev):

<quote>
ODF format version
OpenOffice.org 3 and StarOffice 9 introduce new features which have to
be saved using the OpenDocument format (ODF) version 1.2. The prior
versions of OpenOffice.org 2 and StarOffice 8 support the file formats
ODF 1.0/1.1. Those prior file formats cannot store all new features of
the new software.
Current versions can open documents in ODF formats 1.0/1.1 and 1.2.
When you save a document, you can select whether to save the document in
the format ODF 1.2, ODF 1.2 (Extended), or in the prior format ODF 1.0/1.1.

Currently, the ODF 1.2 (Extended) format enables files of Draw and
Impress to contain comments. Those comments can be inserted by Insert -
Comment in the latest software version. The comments get lost when
loading files into prior software versions that were saved by the latest
software version.

Some companies or organizations may require ODF documents in the ODF
1.0/1.1 format. You can select that format to save in the listbox. This
older format cannot store all new features, so the new format ODF 1.2
(Extended) is recommended where possible.
</quote>

Looks like it started here:
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/rc1.html#general_odf
and Cor asked about it here:
<http://openoffice.org/projects/framework/lists/dev/archive/2010-01/message/16>

> There is no way to identify an ODF document as "1.2 extended".
> There's also no way to tell as an user whether a document written
> with that option set *actually* depends on a LibreOffice extension or
> not.  Using 1.1 as my output format, or using 1.2 as my output format
> (not extended), I have never received a warning that my document uses
> features that are not supported by the target format.  I don't know
> if that is because I have not done anything to require an extension
> or because I am not being told.

I guess that the only way you might know is to try 'Commenting' in Draw
and/or Impress. Or examining the xml.

Way too many pages in http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/
...


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