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Hi :)
The crucial thing is that LibreOffice can be installed alongside MS Office.  You 
are not asking them to stop installing MS Office (it would be nice but lets be 
realistic).  They might let you have LO on your main machine there at the very 
least.  Hopefully they might allow it on all the machines in your area.  I think 
that is what i would push for.  Tell them that you need LO.  Tell them that LO 
is to MS Office what FireFox is to IE.  That they can have both with no 
troubles.  


I'm never sure about younger geeks.  One way of finding out might be to ask them 
about iPads or Macs in general.  People that use Gnu&Linux are likely to have a 
very different response from Windows fanboys.  Even if they don't like Macs 
their criticisms of it are likely to hint at "other OSes" or "other systems".  
Often, geeky types are already using Gnu&Linux systems  at home, or on their 
phones or mobile devices perhaps without really  realising it.  Not all Windows 
fans are completely closed to other systems.  A lot of people like to play with 
new gadgets and in the last couple of years that will have exposed them to other 
OSes.  

Regards from
Tom :)




________________________________
From: Bruce Carlson <bruce@grahamgroup.com.au>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 7 September, 2011 5:41:39
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external 
drive. ?



-----Original Message-----
From: planas [mailto:jslozier@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:22 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external 
drive. ?

On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:28 +1000, Bruce Carlson wrote: 

HI,

I agree with Tom.
It is difficult to get IT people who have never worked with anything other than 
MS products to accept that there is a better alternative, especially younger IT 
staff. Older IT workers have mostly had experience with Unix based operating 
systems, word processors, spread sheet and drawing / presentation applications 
long before MS even existed so are aware that better alternatives do exist.
However in my organisation I have been successful in getting almost everyone 
including young IT MS orientated staff to use Firefox as their preferred browser 
and I now have a small following of execs and senior staff who prefer to use 
Libre Office because of it's greater functionality and ease of use but because 
of company policy, must also have MS office installed on their machines.
The long term goal is to demonstrate to the senior management the false economy 
of making everyone install MS office as this is an expense the company can do 
without.
Except for development environments, I personally have only one MS application 
running on my work machines and that is Outlook.

Keep demonstrating the advantages of these alternatives and you will win 
through in the end. Little by little.


planas wrote
An possible replacement for Outlook might be Thunderbird.


From Bruce,

Hi Planas, and others,

I used to use thunderbird for my personal email client but had some problems and 
switched to Evolution but I am currently having another look into the new 
thunderbird and so far I'm excited about what I've seen.

I know this is really nothing to do with LO but the two go hand in hand and 
gaining acceptance of one helps lead to acceptance of the other.

All good advice. Thanks, Planas


Bruce Carlson

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 10:14 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external 
drive. ?

Hi :)
It might be worth contacting the IT Staff that are going to install the systems 
and make the point that your work requires using specialist software or 
something or that you prefer using Firefox because it's safer and faster than 
Internet Explorer and you feel the same way about Office.  



It takes a lot of luck to find the right angle but it would be great if you 
could get Firefox and LibreOffice installed alongside whatever they are told  to 
force you to use.  Firefox has built a strong reputation for being low-maintance 
and popular so the IT guys might be happy to let you install that and then 
LibreOffice is "similar" but just not as famous yet.  Perhaps other people at 
work might be happy to join in kicking up a fuss about getting Firefox on their 
machines too.  



You might like this article
http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/
or translated to English ... 
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layo
ut=2&eotf=1&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F11
8467%2F>

There are other articles on
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_In_The_Press
but it's not very comprehensive or up-to-date.  There are just tooo many 
articles out there so it's better to use a search engine if you want to find 
articles.  


Regards from
Tom :)



________________________________
From: Don Parris <parrisdc@gmail.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 6 September, 2011 23:23:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can Libre Office be installed on an external 
drive. ?

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 22:01, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi :)
I think you are looking for
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/
but it only works on Windows machines.

On linux machines you will probably find that LibreOffice is already 
installed although some have stayed with OpenOffice.  You are more 
likely to be allowed to install LibreOffice directly onto a 
Gnu&Linux machine if it doesn't already have it.  You do soemtimes 
find kiosk machines that wont let you install anything but generally  
multi-user Gnu&Linux machines have much less need to be locked-down 
than Windows machines so you should be able to install LibreOffice 
reasonably easily.



Thanks for that, Tom.  I actually have a situation in which this is going to be 
useful.  I have been exploring some of the other portable apps as well.
My workplace is going to soon roll out new systems, and I understand they are 
being locked down in terms of what can be installed on them.  I have had OOo/LO 
on my box for several years, and know that they are talking about not allowing 
other programs to be installed beyond what they specify.

While I understand their concerns, I absolutely find working with MS Office to 
be mostly just awful.  OK, Excel is not bad, but Word, well... I just can't take 
it.  Anyway, Portable Apps gives me the ability to use LO without having to 
install it.  There is also the portable VirtuaWin, which lets me have my virtual 
desktops in their Windows environment.

The bottom line?  I feel much more at home at work now.  :-)


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