Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice get involved and donation infobars - how often to show them?

Dear friends,

The first thing, I think, what we need is an open source(O-S) public ethics
awareness.
Not only for our users but for all open-source users.

Free and open is not effortless. If all O-S users start to have the
perception that even the smallest monthly amount helps them to stay free.
That they are not powerless towards big-corp. if they together put their
energy in the goal of remaining free.
Only that way they will remain to be free.

Personally I have chosen to live an as environmental friendly live as
possible. My choice is to have a low as possible income because that is the
most environmental friendly. That is the reason for me to avoid 'big-corp'.
(I've been there).
Still I pay a small fee for all "free" software I use, because I do
understand software is not made from thin air. And I want to stay free.

For example:
If all Mozilla-Firefox users paid a few dollars a month to the Mozilla
foundation, Mozilla would not be dependent from Google.

So I think we first need a Free Software Foundation wide ethical
open-source users conduct. So every "Free" software can hook in to a
central code of conduct linked to a "Freedom is not effortless" campaign.

From that, I think, we need a stay-free logo/icon that can be used by all
O-S apps to link to the monthly contribution page.

By the way the other side of this is a public available annual financial
report by all who use the "Freedom is not effortless" trade-marks.

Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.

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Op wo 28 apr. 2021 om 16:33 schreef Telesto <telesto@surfxs.nl>:

> Op 28-4-2021 om 11:50 schreef Mike Saunders:
> > > To be transparent of these info-bars, I would like it to appear
> > > somewhere on the official LibreOffice site where the frequency is shown
> > > and perhaps also the rationale for the frequency and a good explanation
> > > of what is meant as "Get Involved" and "Donate ..." (or linked to their
> > > appropriate pages). Make it clear as to where the money is being
> > > invested and to the German non-profit/charitable laws governing the use
> > > of the money ... do the German non-profit/charitable laws/rules force
> > > the project to spend all of the donation income within that fiscal year?
> > The https://www.libreoffice.org/donate/ page that we link to has an
> > infographic on the right showing what the money is being used for, and
> > some text underneath about the non-profit status. There's also a link to
> > "financials and budget", although it's further down the right-hand
> > column. We're working on a website redesign now, so maybe we can make
> > those more prominent on the donate page...
> Not to nag, but well I still struggle with the whole donation topic.
> As I personally perceive it as kind of misleading (easy to misconceive).
> In the sense that especially bugfixing (but maybe also features),
> being outside of the scope of TDF . Obviously infra, meetings,
> documentation and such is also important.
>
> However people do see  a relation between donation and bugfixing. Or to
> phrase it differently.
> Some say, I have donated, why is bug XYZ not gone. This obviously not
> how it works,
> but implies a relation between donation to bugfixing. And that's what I
> would expect to. But that's exactly how it not works.
> No money is flowing to development directly.  And actually can't flow,
> because of the non-profit status and rules attached.
> Donations maybe also thank you to developers who fixed something, while
> TDF being kind of unrelated.
>
> TDF needs funding to obviously. All the other stuff is also important.
> However the whole mystery around TDF and spending makes kind of public
> secret.
> You have to make study to actually know about the 'broken transfer
> system' regarding bugfixing
> You're actually doing more 'good' by buying LibreOffice from eco-system
> partners, IMHO.
>
> And yes, this is not marketing topic, but well marketing circling around
> the hairy area by putting info-banners inside LibreOffice.
> Same for the banners on libreoffice.org download page.
>
> And well I know this "being topic" for quite a while. Meeks written
> enough about it. And where still is some status quo land. Still hoping
> for a change; a fix.
> Current situation is one 'Big ball of mud' to me.
>
> Note: simply mentioning it; not expecting marketing to sort this out
> (but it does play in the background)
>
> Cheers,
> Telesto
>
>
>
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