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Le 2021-04-27 à 11 h 52, Justin Luth a écrit :
You are already getting my code contributions completely free, so IMHO
you should be satisfied with people making general donations to TDF
instead of ever nagging them via infobars. So I still think this is a
bad idea.


On 4/27/21 5:28 PM, Mike Saunders wrote:
Hello everyone,

In recent versions of LibreOffice, we have an infobar that's
periodically displayed at the top of the screen, including some text and
a link. Currently the configuration is:

* 90 days after installation: show a "Get involved" button

* 180 days after installation: show a "Donate to support our community"

We know that the donate infobar results in a lot of donations; people
using LibreOffice for six months are (hopefully!) still satisfied.

So the question is: should we change how often these are shown? We don't
want to "nag" anybody, but at the same time, one bar every three months
isn't much, I think, given that users get a completely free office
suite. IMO we could show the "get involved" bar after two months, and
the "donate" after four -- but what do others think?

There are many ways to contribute. As I am not a coder, I try to
contribute as best as I can to the project. However, others may not have
the time to contribute to the project with marketing, QA verifying bugs
and triage, docs etc. So, people who join in to help the project by
donating some funds makes of them part of the project. Those who would
rather help out with donating funds are aware that funds generally go to
infrastructure, meetup/conference costs, hardware purchases, marketing
kits for our native language groups in various countries, etc ... 
Donors are a category of contributors to the project that should not be
ignored. I believe that LibreOffice users are quite aware that they are
donating to the project and not for the product ... they all know that
the product comes with no financial requirements; if they believe they
are donating to the product, then usually one of our contributors on the
help list/forums will set them straight.

IMO, best we consider all categories of donations to the project,
whether it be code, design, QA, Docs, Marketing, Advocacy, financial
supporters to the project (this is our donor-base). If one is assuming
that the code alone has made the project what it is, then, it would be a
sad statement on the TDF/LibreOffice project and would do nothing more
than be-little all of the other contributors donation to time, help and
financial support to make LibreOffice so great a project.

So, yes, I am for this. As far as frequency, I favour every the three
month info-bar. I think every second month a little too quick. I would
also favour more like:

* after 3 months -- info-bar on "Get Involved"
* after 6 months -- info-bar on "Donate to support ..."
* then skip to a 9-month schedule after that last 6-month info-bar.
Asking for either "Get Involved" and "Donate" -- by then a new version
of LibreOffice would be in the wings and users would be hyped about the
next LibreOffice iteration.

To be transparent of these info-bars, I would like it to appear
somewhere on the official LibreOffice site where the frequency is shown
and perhaps also the rationale for the frequency and a good explanation
of what is meant as "Get Involved" and "Donate ..." (or linked to their
appropriate pages). Make it clear as to where the money is being
invested and to the German non-profit/charitable laws governing the use
of the money ... do the German non-profit/charitable laws/rules force
the project to spend all of the donation income within that fiscal year?
And also add to the page financials that show where past donations were
spent and perhaps any projections as to the next fiscal year's plans for
donation-income spending.



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