Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Edition Matter

@Cor: Good proposal; I think

There are few catches though:
Not sure how far TDF is willing to go. Business/Organizations are not 
prohibited using use
LibreOffice 'rolling'. While a distinction between Home/Private & 
Business/Organizations
might suggesting otherwise.

Visa versa is rolling release not always adequate for Home/Private. I 
think. The might consider LTS.
So they story get it for free with some risk of running into something 
(and contribute by reporting it),
and/or accept 'issues' as is. Where the mission isn't being fully stable.
Or opt for LTS as more of a save harbor for a small license fee.
With also they alternative to keep waiting for say they .5 release or 
even .7 or .8 (and manually upgrade)
From security perspective preferably LTS of course. So using sticking 
with older unsupported version not advised.

With with the rolling release they 'free beer' topic being of the table 
too.
Or kind of public tester, or paying to getting more stable.

Thinking about it bit longer: the distinction between Home/Private & 
Business/Organizations should be made.
Where pages for Home users are suggesting rolling primarily  (with they 
option to use LTS)
Where they narrative at Business/Organization is primary LTS with 
rolling as alternative.

How it's presented is up to communication department. Story must be such 
that Home Users feel confident enough using LibreOffice Rolling,
whereas it's scary enough for Business/Organizations. And the business 
pages must also promoting advantages of LTS (incremental updates);
distribution templates or whatever used in enterprise setting.
Also special topic for Educational institutions to get LibreOffice LTS 
for free similar to they competition;
but that's up to eco-system partners.

Somewhat off-topic here: has LibreOffice/ Collabora Online (in 
combination with a partner) an actual  competitor against Office 365 
Personal with 1TB subscription.
Quite of number off people seeing it as a nice deal especially at Black 
Friday. Even replacing Dropbox and such.
Couldn't find competitive product at Nextcloud providers. It must be 
possible. There is also cloud storage not connected to 
Amazon/Google/Microsoft.
Something like Stack[1] combined with NextCloud.
[1] https://www.transip.nl/stack/ (apparently only Dutch services only; 
not able to find the same product at www.transip.eu)

And even that 'promoted' preferably at LibreOffice.org. Instead of jump 
through all kinds of hoops searching for a host. Jumping from 
LibreOffice to Nextcloud to hosting provider etc.
Exclusive for LibreOffice. Instead of competition being around too. At 
Nextcloud Collabora and OnlyOffice are equally placed.
Not saying the partner should only host LibreOffice Online.. but at 
least the 'special page' dedicated to LibreOffice only product with 
storage.
They TransIP stack site makes pretty clear why to use them instead of 
they major players.

Lots of people want something out of the box; not a do it yourself 
product. It fits the open source mentality but not the mass market, IMHO

Regards,
Telesto


Op 24-10-2020 om 14:27 schreef Cor Nouws:

> Hi,
>
> Telesto wrote on 24/10/2020 10:49:
>
> > ...
> > And to make 'LTS' bit more attractive.. drop the whole stable/still
> > edition at TDF.
> > People using LibreOffice should be on 'rolling'. If they dislike that
> > they can dig in they archive reprository to find some older version.
> > Also, users don't have to upgrade. But TDF doesn't need to have serve
> > barely supported 'still'. Which being a kind of LTS light.
> > ....
> > So or they contribute by being in the 'rolling' - permanent
> > improving/regressing testing version. Or opt for the more reliable,
> > older and paid LTS.
> That's an interesting thought. And apart from what label to chose, one
> could extend that. For example to show a clear distinction/direction on
> the website. Simply say what it is. E.g.:
>
> -----------------------------------
> |          LibreOffice Download
> |
> |  Home/Private |  Business/Organization
> |          V    |                V
> -----------------------------------
>
> -----------------------------------
> |      LibreOffice Home/Private
> |      Download
> |      (part of Current page)
> -----------------------------------
>
> -----------------------------------
> |     LibreOffice Business/Organization
> |     Download
> |          V
> |    | TDF Ecosystem partners provide
> |    | various products and services
> |    | Please find them here, get the best
> |    | out of LibreOffice and support the
> |    | development of our and we hope
> |    | also your product  >>>
> |
> |
> | <small font> You can also chose to
> | download unsupported version here   >>>
> |
> -----------------------------------
>
>
> etc.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Cor


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