Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Edition Matter

[Editted version of the one I posted on the Board mailing list by 
accident; thanks for reminders :-]

Official Edition is really confusing. Which suggests there is also a 
Unofficial edition.
A copycat fork? Or are those LTS releases powered by clones, trying to 
make a profit from TDF LibreOffice

I also find it hard to differentiate between 'branch' and 'edition'
LibreOffice by TDF build base ond they 'latest' branch. While LTS being 
somewhat more 'conventional'.
Whereas Edition being mostly about variants of the same thing. So 
Standard and Professional Edition.
Both look the same, but Professional has more features. OK, there are 
some marketing stunts,
where same stuff gets sold with different labels (thinking about 
fertilizers) with different prices.
But that's they exception and feels like deception.

Sometimes I tend to 'drop' the explicit mentioning of 'Edition'.
Does it really need explicit 'Edition' to be called edition when 
materially an edition?

So the website/wiki etc LibreOffice is promoted as Latest supplied/ made 
available by TDF.
LibreOffice simply called LibreOffice. Prominently being presented as 
based on a 'rolling' release model/framework which might be more unstable,
with a 'fixed' snapshot schedule. So we tag it 7.0.2 for differentiation 
purposes (bug tracking/communication). But snapshot 'of rolling'
Without explicitly guaranteeing 7.0.3 to be better compared to 7.0.2. It 
often is, but not all they time.
Take current 7.0.2 bit a of a calculation disaster compared to 7.0.1
So would advocate a more or less Debian Development model. Rolling model 
with Cycles (smaller incremental) large major updates.
Where LibreOffice LTS powered by being framed a still/stable editions 
for more 'conventional usage'

Note also they distinction by 'powered' and 'supplied' or 'made 
available' which more passive, compared to
powered. TDF simply builds the 'latest' branch, doesn't do much 
development by itself.

And to make 'LTS' bit more attractive.. drop the whole stable/still 
edition at TDF.
People using LibreOffice should be on 'rolling'. If they dislike that 
they can dig in they archive reprository to find some older version.
Also, users don't have to upgrade. But TDF doesn't need to have serve 
barely supported 'still'. Which being a kind of LTS light.

Where as the still branch never had a proper reputation (at least in my 
world). I mostly pick fresh (or even master).

Replace that with a 'LTS story' powered by.. It cheap enough to be 
bought by regular users.
So or they contribute by being in the 'rolling' - permanent 
improving/regressing testing version. Or opt for the more reliable, 
older and paid LTS.
And we could put a note how to dig up they last release in a cycle. 
However not to be communicated actively as 'stable'.

LibreOffice Rolling (made available by TDF) and LibreOffice LTS powered 
by XX
With same additional text in about box they Rolling release about LTS
And communication about they rolling release cycle concept

Maybe is made available or distributed by TDF better compared to supplied.
As it points out TDF not being directly responsible for the code itself,
or at least that there is something more to it.

What I personally conceive is a mess if of course 'powered by'. There 
are two or more LTS versions :-(
And I assume there are some difference between CIB <-> Collabora (except 
the name),
but I'm surely not knowing what that should be. I mean it, I really 
don't know! Between LibreOffice and Powered Editions I can get it.
But even that - LibreOffice by partners being more mature (or older) 
editions - not that obvious.
Is CIB better compared to Collabora? Or visa versa? Is there no 
difference, but why two versions? I'm still confused here.
As a user I would think, did I buy the right one. [Looking at it regular 
user perspective; as they Editions being sold in app stores to general 
public too]

Regards,
Telesto

Some other editions I made up in a brainstorming session (some are awful)
LibreOffice Regular Edition by TDF
LibreOffice Common Edition
LibreOffice Fresh Edition
LibreOffice Feature-rich Edition
LibreOffice Innovation Edition
LibreOffice Innovative Edition
LibreOffice Novel Edition
LibreOffice State of the Art Edition
LibreOffice Progress Edition
LibreOffice Progressive Edition
LibreOffice Advancement Edition
LibreOffice Latest Edition [problem older editions 'show' latests.. 
which isn't the case]
LibreOffice Active Edition
LibreOffice Modern Edition
LibreOffice Snapshot edition
LibreOffice Rolling Edition
LibreOffice Advancing

Op 23-10-2020 om 18:43 schreef Simon Phipps:
> It certainly (correctly) indicates there are unofficial editions in
> circulation. I see that as a helpful differentiator. I would not jump to
> the conclusion they are untrustworthy; however, the use of a validated
> "Libreoffice technology" signifier as Italo has proposed would fix that if
> it were a problem for other editions to confirm they too are approved by
> TDF.
>
> The term "Community Edition" is very commonly used to differentiate
> feature-limited versions so if I had to choose, I would rather our version
> was considered strong because we use an "Official Edition" tag rather than
> the software produced by others being considered stronger because we use a
> "Community Edition" tag.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Simon
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 3:16 PM Nigel Verity <nigelverity@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Doesn't this imply there are some unofficial and, thereby, untrustworthy
> > editions in circulation?
> >
> > Nige
> >
> > > On 23 Oct 2020, at 06:44, Simon Phipps <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Taking on board all the concerns about not giving the impression of a
> > > weaker version, and if "no label" is really not an option, how about
> > > calling TDF's package "official edition"?


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