Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] definite article in the name “The Document Foundation”

Hi :)
+1
It is a good name.

As a native English speaker i can confirm the little "the" gets dropped as
Paolo described.  I have a funny feeling there is some strange use-case
where having "The ..." at the beginning creates problems but i think it's
rare enough to be ignorable and anyway everything has a downside if you
look carefully enough.  The trick is finding a downside that really doesn't
matter and i think TDF does that.  Maybe just in filing?

Regards from
Tom :)




On 10 November 2014 11:54, Paolo Pelloni <paolo@paolopelloni.it> wrote:

> I may be wrong not being a native speaker but.....
>
> Most of the bands are called "The Beatles", "The Foundations" .... you
> pick (not the Eagles though).
>
> I believe that normally you read "....and after the tour The Beatles
> went back to the recording of...." and the double the is dropped. In
> those instances most of the times The is capitalised, seldom is not. I
> always read the former as dropping the "the" article and the latter as a
> shortening of the name.
>
> Personally I like "The Document Foundation" exactly for the reason
> Charles explained.
>
> Paolo
>
>
> On dom, 2014-11-09 at 21:37 -0500, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
>
> > On 11/09/2014 01:29 PM, Lera Goncharuk wrote:
> > > В письме от 9 ноября 2014 18:33:20 пользователь Charles-H. Schulz
> написал:
> > > > Hello Lera,
> > > > As I was the one who originally came up with that name (although the
> > > > founders had to all be in agreement with it), I may answer. It is not
> > > > exactly clear why, and I probably forgot a few things sine we first
> > > > started all this, but I know for sure that in English, if you say
> > > > "Document Foundation" it will not have the same effect than if you say
> > > > "the Document Foundation". The definite article "the" puts emphasis on
> > > > the rest of the name, which itself has one very generic noun
> > > > "document". So "The Document Foundation" is really "THE foundation of
> > > > the Document".
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > Hello Charles,
> > >
> > > Yes. I thought exactly that you said. Thank you.
> > >
> > > Lera
> >
> > With "The" in front of the name, it implies that it is the best of what
> > it does.
> > Having TDF as the abbreviation, it makes that statement an emphasis to
> > the fact that it is " Th'E' " one and only or the best.
> >
> > I am glad it made it into the name.
> >
> > The only issue for grammar would be the double "the" in the line using
> > the proper full name use with the content like "this is the that" - i.e.
> > - We see the "The Documentation Foundation" growing as its product
> > "LibreOffice" becoming even more popular.
>
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