Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] definite article in the name “The Document Foundation”

I may be wrong not being a native speaker but.....

Most of the bands are called "The Beatles", "The Foundations" .... you
pick (not the Eagles though). 

I believe that normally you read "....and after the tour The Beatles
went back to the recording of...." and the double the is dropped. In
those instances most of the times The is capitalised, seldom is not. I
always read the former as dropping the "the" article and the latter as a
shortening of the name. 

Personally I like "The Document Foundation" exactly for the reason
Charles explained. 

Paolo


On dom, 2014-11-09 at 21:37 -0500, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

> On 11/09/2014 01:29 PM, Lera Goncharuk wrote:
> > В письме от 9 ноября 2014 18:33:20 пользователь Charles-H. Schulz написал:
> > > Hello Lera,
> > > As I was the one who originally came up with that name (although the
> > > founders had to all be in agreement with it), I may answer. It is not
> > > exactly clear why, and I probably forgot a few things sine we first
> > > started all this, but I know for sure that in English, if you say
> > > "Document Foundation" it will not have the same effect than if you say
> > > "the Document Foundation". The definite article "the" puts emphasis on
> > > the rest of the name, which itself has one very generic noun
> > > "document". So "The Document Foundation" is really "THE foundation of
> > > the Document".
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > Hello Charles,
> >
> > Yes. I thought exactly that you said. Thank you.
> >
> > Lera
>
> With "The" in front of the name, it implies that it is the best of what 
> it does.
> Having TDF as the abbreviation, it makes that statement an emphasis to 
> the fact that it is " Th'E' " one and only or the best.
>
> I am glad it made it into the name.
>
> The only issue for grammar would be the double "the" in the line using 
> the proper full name use with the content like "this is the that" - i.e. 
> - We see the "The Documentation Foundation" growing as its product 
> "LibreOffice" becoming even more popular.

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