Re: [libreoffice-marketing] "Code of Conduct"

Hi :)
I'm not on the discuss list but i think you are right.  It would be better there.  


The problem is enforcement.  However, i tend to find that  if a policy is reasonable enough then 
people self-moderate.  The lack of a policy means people don't think about what might not be ok.  
There is a problem with having a small elite group of people acting as moderators as it makes the 
organisation seem quite hierarchical and patronising.  Then various people dispute the rights of 
the moderators or feel they can legitimately mistreat the moderators and so on and on.  If you 
create a police ofrce then you are more likely to need them.  If you don't have one people tend to 
behave better.  Just my experience of vaious co-operative group's meetings and demonstrations and 
stuff.  Best to avoid moderators if possible.  Ubuntu's Launchpad works really well without them.  


Anyway, best for the discuss group

Regards from
Tom :)






> ________________________________
> From: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 10:18
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] "Code of Conduct"
>
> Hello Tom,
>
> I don't know why you posted this on the marketing list, perhaps we
> should continue this discussion on discuss@... anyway. 
>
> Maybe such a code of conduct is needed, I don't dwell too much on the
> users list to be frank. However, what's really important is to have this
> code enforced, and that means to have community members who are able to
> moderate and help the mailing list in question to remain polite and
> helpful. In this sense, I would trust a few people more than I would
> trust a code of conduct. As you do spend much more time  on the Users
> mailing list than me, do you think you need such a code, or do you need
> more people to help out users (in a polite tone, of course)?
>
> Best,
> Charles. 
>
> Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 à 11:04 +0200, Florian Monfort a écrit :
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Sure sounds like a great idea :)
> >
> > +1
> >
> > --
> > Florian Monfort
> > Marketing Apprentice at Red Hat
> > Marketing Team at The Document Foundation
> > Student at France Business School
> > +33 6 58 97 15 61
> > florian.monfort@gmail.com
> > On Sep 25, 2012 11:02 AM, "Tom Davies" <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi :)
> > >
> > > I was wondering if we could set-up a "Code of Conduct" along the lines of
> > > Ubuntu's?
> > >
> > > http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > While we like to believe that everyone on the lists and involved with
> > > LO is "just like us" that means very different things for different
> > > combinations of "us".  The marketing list and documentation lists are very
> > > polite and welcoming when someone new arrives and starts asking questions
> > > but the Users List is often very rude and makes the new person feel very
> > > unwelcome or even intimidated.  Can we legislate against rudeness?  Can we
> > > even define it?  Different people obviously have very different ideas about
> > > what is acceptable behaviour.
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
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