Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Forums? (was: Nabble: friend or foe?)

Hi :)
Yes, i agree that having 2 different methods of communicating would probably fragment the 
community.  I hadn't thought about it.  It might be that the community is large enough that it 
could allow such fragmentation without much ill effect?  Sometimes personality clashes happen that 
would be solved by one person moving to the other part of the group.  


At the moment we have emailing lists that can be read in a forum(ish) style by using Nabble.  
Ubuntu has forums (fora? forii?) that send posts by email to those subscribed.
Regards from
Tom :)  






> ________________________________
> From: Bjoern Michaelsen <bjoern.michaelsen@canonical.com>
> To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> 
> Cc: Florian Monfort <florian.monfort@gmail.com>; Jean Weber <jeanweber@gmail.com>; 
> "marketing@global.libreoffice.org" <marketing@global.libreoffice.org> 
> Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 14:13
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Forums? (was: Nabble: friend or foe?)
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 01:21:41PM +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> > I think the idea is to have a forum alongside the mailing-lists.  
>
> mostly.
>
> > Many people find forums easier to understand or have more experience with
> > them from using them in other projects.
>
> Yes, that is a big plus for forums: the lower barrier to entry.
>
> > Others prefer mailing lists. So, it's good to have both to avoid pushing
> > people away. 
>
> That depends. I would indeed also consider to close down mailing lists under
> certain circumstances and only offer the forum. This is because it is very
> unhelpful if a (sub)project splits up in the marketing-list-guys and the
> marketing-forum-guys -- just as you said most prefer one medium over the other
> and thus will not know what is going on "over there" in the other media.
>
> As a forum have a lower barrier to entry, it makes sense to have them for all
> areas of the project, even if the mail activity is usually on a mailing list.
> Essentially, such a forum has the only propose to not miss out those guys and
> lure them on the mailing list in the end. Thats what I assume for development.
>
> There are other part of the project (closer to the users of the product), where
> I assume the majority of posts happening on the forum and not on the mailing
> list. In those cases, the mailing list would be unhelpful in the end: It has a
> higher barrier to entry and needlessly fragmentizes communication. In these
> cases, I would propose to close down the user list.
>
> With "Closing down", I mean we still need to take care of making the migration
> as soft and smooth as possible:
> - announce that the list will be "closed" in favor of the forum in 3-6(?) month
>   on the list
> - possibly make the forum send copies of the posts to the mailing list on
>   switchover date (as a mailing list is a nice mirrored archive and google will
>   never forget anything)
> - make the list readonly on switchover date
>
> I imagine that to happen for users@global.libreoffice.org and
> discuss@documentfoundation.org from the start. For other lists (design,
> marketing, documentation, etc.) we have to wait and see if the majority of
> communication stays on the list or moves to the forum. If the majority moves to
> the forum for a specific subproject, I would suggest to close the list too, as
> otherwise it will fragmentize the community.
>
> Best,
>
> Bjoern 
>
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