Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New Web Banner Proposals by Aleksandar (See)

I see no errors from Google translation, I assume.

I think I remember that there is a large push to get more Windows users 
for LO.  IT sounded like the Linux users out number the Windows users.  
But for the computer field, the market place is mostly Windows users.

I want to see more of the Windows users I know switch to LibreOffice 
instead of using Microsoft Office.  I hope to see a push to get the 
younger users started with LO before they are brainwashed to only use MS 
Office as they do in the schools.  I wold like to see the schools have 
both.  Teach the kids MSO so they know how to use it for business, but 
have LO there to use for their own personal use at home.  If they would 
learn in school that there is a free option to go to instead of having 
their parents keep buying the newest versions of MSO for the home 
systems, then more kids and their parents will not want to buy the over 
priced MSO and just use the free LO.

But, to get these new users, we need to avoid making any small slight by 
"saying" Windows is second to Mac or Linux.  Some would see that and not 
see the slight.  Some will not see it either, but their minds would 
remember it and not want to use LO because of the unseen slight.

On 09/26/2011 08:24 PM, Lucas Filho wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I understand. But I use Linux Big Linux (http://www.biglinux.com.br) in RC2 (Big Linux 5.0) Libo 
> brings many improvements over the version for Windows.
>
> It has more types of transition. The sound does not end in changing slides. Movies "ogg" are 
> inserted into and slides easily seen in the presentation. The Galaxy is standard issue - which does not 
> happen with other Linux distributions. Offers more backgrounds a panel to access portal extras ie ​​far what 
> user Libo Windows like. Big Brazilian Linux is a remaster of Kubuntu and will soon have the English language 
> in 100% (2012).
>
> I only believe that Free Software must be brought to the fore, and since the Libo SL is nothing but 
> a fair.
>
> PS: Excuse errors, use Google.
>   
>
> Até mais,
> Lucas Filho
> Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços
> http://www.open-ce.com.br
> Hazime - Art Digital
> http://hazime-ad.blogspot.com
> Imagem Pix - Curso de fotografia grátis
> http://imagempix.blogspot.com
>
> Agradecemos a Deus por tudo
>
>
> ----- Mensagem original -----
> De: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<webmaster@krackedpress.com>
> Para: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Cc:
> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 26 de Setembro de 2011 21:06
> Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New Web Banner Proposals by Aleksandar (See)
>
>
> The list seems to be the way people know or use the OSs.
> Windows have the biggest market.  Windows users know about Mac systems. 
> Most Windows users do not know what "Linux" is, and some Mac users may
> be that way as well.  I do not know if there are more Mac users than any
> other OS based on a "flavor of Linux", so I do not think they should be
> switched.
>
> So Windows, then Mac, then finally Linux.  I keep forgetting about what
> GNU actually means.  I forget such things "a lot".  Still I do not think
> many non-technical Windows users would want to use LO if Windows was was
> after Mac or Linux.  That is just a psychological and marketing issue. 
> So Windows goes first, then Mac, then Linux.
>
> For those of us who grew to hate Windows and now do not use it for their
> default systems, I see what you mean by putting Linux first.  I have
> only a few friends and associates that use Linux or Mac.  Most of them
> use Windows.  Plus most of them use Vista.  Vista is what made me hate
> Windows.  It was an OS that should not have been put out, just like
> Windows ME.  Win7 is what Vista should have been, according to all the
> tech articles I have read about Win7 before it came out.  Of course Win8
> is made for the tablet industry and "can be made to work" for the
> desktop and laptop market, though MS seems to think that those two
> markets are dead.
>
> Actually, I hope someone will make a version of LO that will work on a
> Android 2.2 tablet, but 256-MB RAM and a few gigs of flash drive storage
> does not make it easy to make a fully functional office package.  I
> wonder how well Android's OfficeSuitePro reads/writes .docx and .xltx files?
>
> On 09/26/2011 07:24 PM, Lucas Filho wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I put like this:
> > ...GNU / Linux, Macintosh and Windows ...
> >
> > Because Windows always has to appear first on the banners of Free Software?
> >   
> >
> > Até mais,
> > Lucas Filho
> > Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços
> > http://www.open-ce.com.br
> > Hazime - Art Digital
> > http://hazime-ad.blogspot.com
> > Imagem Pix - Curso de fotografia grátis
> > http://imagempix.blogspot.com
> >
> > Agradecemos a Deus por tudo
> >
> >
> > ----- Mensagem original -----
> > De: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<webmaster@krackedpress.com>
> > Para: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> > Cc:
> > Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 26 de Setembro de 2011 13:07
> > Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New Web Banner Proposals by Aleksandar (See)
> >
> >
> > I think the light green letters are too light to easily read the text on the light background.  
> > Could use use a darker green color for the small text lettering?  I would prefer to use that light 
> > background, if the text was darker so it was easier to read.
> >
> > I just added the dark green banner to the top of my personal page.  I will do it for my free 
> > software page as well [soon].  I will replace it with the other one, once the small text lettering 
> > is easier to read.
> >
> >
> > On 09/26/2011 11:48 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> > > Can we use them now?
> > > I sure will until there are final ones.  I have been using the "unbranded" logo as a banner.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 09/26/2011 10:17 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> > > > Awesome - I love it, naturally :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > S.
> > > >
> > > > On 26 Sep 2011, at 14:58, Aleksandar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > Florian and Simon, thanks I am glad you like it.
> > > > > I added two new files with different text like Simon asked:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:See_banner_ss3b.png
> > > > > and
> > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/f/f0/See_banner_ss2b.png
> > > > >
> > > > > Feel free to take a look at my wiki page:
> > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:See
> > > > > Once again, thanks for your feedback
> > > > > Aleksandar
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/9/26 Simon Phipps<simon@webmink.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 25 Sep 2011, at 21:49, Christoph Noack wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please check whether the banners are okay - marketing-wise. For
> > > > > > > feedback, please use either the marketing list (reply to this mail) or
> > > > > > > the design list. Since these banner closely follow our branding language
> > > > > > > (see later), I suggest to replace the older proposals with these new
> > > > > > > ones. So, please tell us whether everything fits (size, format,
> > > > > > > claim, ...) ... or not ;-) Comments appreciated...
> > > > > > These are good work - thanks, See.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, I would change the order of the words. I would write:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Power-packed personal productivity suite
> > > > > > Free, libre and open source for
> > > > > > Windows, Macintosh and GNU/Linux
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That makes the core descriptive text together and makes it strongly
> > > > > > alliterative, puts the differentiating values on their own line and means
> > > > > > that each line has a distinctive purpose.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > S.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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